I went to their place in 1995 and bought a pair of Greer's kings. He was breeding several species; ball pythons, gilas, nelson's, ruthveni, Pueblans, greeri, alterna, alternaXruthveni hybrids and maybe a couple others at that time. Nice set ups, clean cages, etc. I called them a few years later hoping to get some other things and they told me they were out of the reptile bussiness. Supposedly there were some people that were upset over some amel Nelsoni dealings they had with them but I don't have many details and this wouldn't be an appropriate forum to discuss that in anyways. The greeri I got from him were awesome and they are still producing babies for me as of last breeding season. I would assume he was honest about his localities, everything looked like what he said it was but I didn't really know him personally. I think he was a friend of Steve Osbourne so you might be able to ask him about them.