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First year for Duval Co. FL southerns

ginter Apr 06, 2008 09:50 AM

I am probably as excited about this breeding as any others in the collection. They are het for nothing but have really solid localty data and are pretty darned good looking... IMHO. Especially the male with his muted liver saddles.

Fingers are crossed!

Replies (7)

shannon brown Apr 06, 2008 10:21 AM

WOW I would be too.Thats way better than any morph out there.

Congrats,
Shannon

daveb Apr 06, 2008 01:37 PM

sign me up!!!!! IMO, one of the hardest pituophis to find is a good looking mugitus that's het for nothing.
daveb
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Br8knitOFF Apr 06, 2008 04:44 PM

I agree with you guys 100%!

I'll take a nice normal over a het or any kind of morph!

//Todd

sjohn Apr 06, 2008 09:44 PM

Nice..one of my favorite pits. Below is an old photo of my female Ocala locale that I had bred since the early 90's.This female was an '89 hatchling and she was a great breeder. One of the biggest mistakes I have ever made was not keeping back some of the offspring...my breeders died out two years ago...and I would love to have some more locality fl. pines...so John if this story makes you feel bad for me keep me in mind for some.
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jason nelson Apr 07, 2008 09:44 PM

Sooooo nice!!! I like the patterns too.

Jason

Steve G Apr 09, 2008 08:47 PM

Good to see folks breeding locale specific Florida pines, as I believe that with the exception of the Florida panhandle, mugitus is being relentlessly squeezed into microhabitats. As a Florida resident, I am prohibited by law to possess more than one unless an amel. While Duval county is rather large, I'm guessing your stock is from the western fringe.......close to the Osceola National Forest. If closer to the coast, your stock may well be from one of those diminishing microhabitats. Nice looking animals nonetheless!

ginter Apr 10, 2008 08:03 AM

The father was picked up by a veterinarian friend in Jacksonville and the mother was from a nearby suberb a bit away but still within the county.

A friend and I went down ten years ago to see these guys in habitat. We only saw a single road killed individual about 3 ft long.

At that time the building craze was on so I can imagine it has only gotten worse.

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