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HERES MY DRAGON... LAWSONS??

STEVES_KIKI Apr 07, 2008 08:08 AM

OK SO HERES THE PICS REQUESTED... IF YA'LL WANT ORE...LET ME KNOW ONCE AGAIN... SHE IS 9 1/2 INCHES AND 47 GRAMS. I'M STILL CHECKING OUT THE WEBSITE IN THE BELOW POST.....




THANKS FOR LOOKING
~KIN
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Replies (12)

STEVES_KIKI Apr 07, 2008 08:11 AM

FORGOT TO SAY.... SHES 2 YEARS OLD.... YES I GOT HER AS A HATCHLING....
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PHLdyPayne Apr 07, 2008 10:04 AM

It doesn't look like a Lawson's dragon at all, instead just a normal Inland bearded dragon. Though 9" for a 2 year old dragon is really small and from the picture, she looks underweight as well. Very narrow around the hips.

Its been awhile since I have seen pictures of hybrids between the two subspecies of bearded dragons so it may be a cross between a Lawsons and Inland bearded dragon but the pattern is all Inland...so hard to say.
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BDlvr Apr 07, 2008 10:17 AM

I agree. Doesn't look like a Lawson's, looks like an inland. Vitticeps.

STEVES_KIKI Apr 07, 2008 06:04 PM

i dont know why she would look thin.... she eats like a freaking pig!!! she doesnt like greens, but lately i have put her on a pretty strict greens diet... yes, still crix and mealies for treats... but she would always turn her nose up at greens so i am switching her to almost strictly greens.. that might be why shes a lil thin. and i loved her away from my Leos. she would see the crix and mealies and freak. now i have her by my window.... any idea why shes 2 years old and only 9 1/2 inches???
~kin
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Reptifit Apr 07, 2008 01:39 PM

That is not a Lawsons dragon. It is just a very small P. vitticeps (or maybe, what PHLdyPayne, said a hybrid between them).

Wilco
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STEVES_KIKI Apr 07, 2008 06:02 PM

then, why wont she grow??? i give her calcium, greens, crix, mealies... everything... shes been tiny forever... i wanted a big beardie... dont get me wrong, i love her...but shes little.... no one believes me that shes 2!!!
~kin
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BDlvr Apr 07, 2008 06:09 PM

BD's need protien to grow. I'd feed her all the crix she'll eat twice a day and not worry too much about the salad right now. I'd skip the mealworms and find some smaller superworms.

STEVES_KIKI Apr 07, 2008 06:25 PM

she was on a strict cricket few veggies diet for 2 years... so i switched her to greens hoping to make her grow.... i even thought maybe she wasnt getting enough calcium, so i got a bowl of calcium and put it in her cage like i do my leos and put mealies AND superworms in there with them.... i just have a retarded dragon, dont i??
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PHLdyPayne Apr 07, 2008 10:00 PM

How many crickets was she eating in the past per meal? Did you let her eat all the crickets she could eat in a 5-10 minute period 2-3 times a day during her first 2-6 months, then 2 meals of insects a day till she was about 12 months old, then daily insects with greens with greens being about 80% of her diet?

There are a few reasons why dragons don't grow, and the biggest one is improper or not enough nutrition during the first year or two of life. Some dragons will still grow even after two years old if provided a proper diet.

If diet isn't an issue, (they are getting all they can eat of healthy food) then it could be something else lacking (improper temps for digestion etc) parasites (these leach nutrients from the intestine before it can be used by the dragon). OR it could be another medical reason the dragon is not growing. OR it could simply be genetics. Husbandry and parasites can be corrected and checked, genetics rely more on the dragon's background (how big were her parents? What about her siblings? etc.)

IN your picture, she looks skinny...her tail base is rather thin, the fat pads on the head behind the eyes are not apparent, may even be a bit concave and her limbs are thin. Have you ever had her checked for parasites? I think that would be a good step to start, bring in a fresh poop sample to your vet (refrigerate in a sealed sterile baggy or small container, don't freeze it) for a fecal. It wouldn't hurt to bring your dragon in too for a physical examination. Being small not sure if they can do blood work but that will be beneficial to see if its some sort of nutritional imbalance or chemical imbalance causing her not to grow as big as a dragon should be.
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STEVES_KIKI Apr 07, 2008 10:38 PM

she would eat about a dozen crickets a day at first... now at 2 years old she prefers greens and about 6-12 crickets. as for her parents... i got her from a pet store that is now closed. so i dont know about that.... i have her in my reptile room where i keep all my other critters... its heated...and she has a heat lamp... i think you can see it in 1 of the pics... shes also in front of a window and i take her outside as often as i can... i hate rain so no rainy days.... she seems to like dandelions and their leaves ok... collard greens, not as much... but likes mustand greens ok. carrots.... kinda iffy i'd say.... when she was a baby at the store she ate bearded dragon lil pellet thingys.... i forgot who makes them... she seems to love them!!!
~kin
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draybar Apr 07, 2008 08:14 PM

>>OK SO HERES THE PICS REQUESTED... IF YA'LL WANT ORE...LET ME KNOW ONCE AGAIN... SHE IS 9 1/2 INCHES AND 47 GRAMS. I'M STILL CHECKING OUT THE WEBSITE IN THE BELOW POST.....
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Hey Kin,
Did you know I had beardies?

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STEVES_KIKI Apr 07, 2008 08:33 PM

i had no idea!!!! cats, yes, snakes, yes.... no idea you had dragons.... BTW cream pics are finished...crummy, but uploading now...

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