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Cardboard keeping Rocky too cool?

coluberking25 Apr 13, 2008 01:51 PM

So Rocky STILL hasn't eaten. And The thermometer says the ground temp is in the 60s. it's read this ever since i covered the bottom of the tank with a piece of cardboard to prevent burns. Do you think this might be keeping his tank too cool, and thus causing him to not eat? I tried removing it just in case. He's in shed but I offered a pinky anway to see if he'd eat(no luck so far though...)
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

Replies (5)

aanata1 Apr 13, 2008 04:04 PM

Are you using an Under Tank Heater? I didn't think those got warm enough to burn. Either way, yes 60 is too low, and that could be why he's not eating. I would take the cardboard away and see if you can get the temp closer to 80 on the warm side of the tank.

coluberking25 Apr 13, 2008 04:13 PM

yes i use a UTH. and yes, they get hot(melted a hole in my emperor scorpion enclosure!). still no luck with the pinky either
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

gfx Apr 13, 2008 05:15 PM

If I were you, I'd change my setup a bit. Lowe's sells a couple of things that you'll find useful; a white extension cord with a dimmer switch and an indoor/outdoor wired thermometer/hygrometer. These things will make it much easier to control the ground and air temperature while keeping an eye on the humidity.

Take your snake out of the enclosure and put him in a secure place. A tied off bag inside a tied off pillowcase should be perfect.

First, ditch the cardboard. Clear the substrate from the UTH and stick the wired sensor to the glass right above the middle of the UTH. Stick the thermometer itself to the inside of the glass on the opposite end of your enclosure so onboard sensor is a few inches above the substrate. I tape the external wire to the corner of the enclosure all the way up to the thermometer unit to keep the snake from getting under the wire and pulling it up.

Next, get your dimmer cord out and plug your UTH into it. Set the slide at about midpoint or lower and plug it in. Let it sit for about 20 minutes and see where you're at. Go ahead and let the UTH get to 82 degrees if you use cypress for substrate, a degree or two lower if you use newspaper. As long as you're not using a screen lid, the other side of the tank should stay a few degrees cooler and allow your snake to self-regulate.

A really good tool to invest in if you dont have one is a temperature gun. The thermometers are good for measuring a set location, but a gun will give you a much better idea of what temperature the different areas of the tank are. I like cypress for my little guys so the top of the substrate is actually a few degrees cooler than the sensor suggests it would be. They do burrow so I dont want the temp above 82, but I also want to know that I dont have so much substrate in there that the heat isnt being distributed properly. A temp gun is the only way to check that.

coluberking25 Apr 13, 2008 05:16 PM

i took out the cardboard. i'll wait till some other time for the rest. i already control it with a rheostat. i'm going back to school soon so i cant do it now
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
-----
1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

aanata1 Apr 14, 2008 12:52 AM

The rheostat is essentially a dimmer switch, it's just a matter of setting it at the right temp. Get a temp gun, or use a thermometer if you're pressed for resources/time, do the best you can for now, but do get the proper resources as soon as you can! Good Luck!

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