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What defines scarlet in corns? Isnt it just similar to a blood red??? Pics anyone?
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My herps..
1.1 Amel bloodred corns
1.1 reverse okeetees
1.0 normal corn
1.0 Anery
1.2 Amel corn
1.1 Jasper county Okettee's(YES true locale specimens)
2.0 American alligators
0.1 Northern Copperhead
1.2 Timber rattlesnakes(canebrake phase)
2.3 black rat snakes
2.2 eastern hogs
1.0 Everglades rat
1.1 yellow rat
1.2 Albino monocled cobra

never heard of a scarlet corn.... cant say one exists.... maybe someone else knows what your talking about.... sorry

~kin
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~Sober Serpents~
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Corns, Creamsicles, A Black Rat, Thayeri, Cal Kings, A Jungle Corn(Just A Pet), A Ball Python, A Bearded dragon, Leopard Geckos, Green Anoles, a Snapping turtle, and a white cheeked mud turtle

I've heard of scarlet corns, and even remember seeing one once, but I don't know what the genetics are behind them. I just did a cursory internet search that didn't turn up anything. I'm sure someone around here will know more.
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Ethans Den

I've seen corns with deep "scarlet red" colored blotches, but I'm no familiar with any corn morph by that name. I have a strong feeling the name "Scarlet Corn" may be one someone just dreamed up to make it sound somewhat more marketable. This happens quite often now days.

Where did you hear this name being used?

best regards, ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Apperantly, Rich Z. coined this name to some hypos he had for quite some time . They were from some of the hypos he produced his "Silver Queen" ghosts with.

He thinks they are just hypo type A animals, but can't be sure. The animal basically looks like a hypo "Okeetee".

Here's the link.

~Doug
Link

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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Thanks Doug! I have heard the term before, however if you go to the corn classifieds here theres one on there now, however I have done bought her. She has a vanishing pattern similar to a blood red. I can see the hypo characteristics obviously in her, however I was unsure. Ive got a male that was sold to me recently that the name was brought up, im gonna try and get them paired up soon as she arrives next week.

Thanks

Mike
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My herps..
1.1 Amel bloodred corns
1.1 reverse okeetees
1.0 normal corn
1.0 Anery
1.2 Amel corn
1.1 Jasper county Okettee's(YES true locale specimens)
2.0 American alligators
0.1 Northern Copperhead
1.2 Timber rattlesnakes(canebrake phase)
2.3 black rat snakes
2.2 eastern hogs
1.0 Everglades rat
1.1 yellow rat
1.2 Albino monocled cobra

Hmmm,.....this thing is getting pretty confusing now,...because the one in the classified you told me about definitely looks like a "bloodred". And the one in the link I posted, is the OTHER one called a "Scarlet". When I look at these two, certainly they aren't the same genetic trait,.....so it still leaves me wondering again like I was in my first original post.

As long as you're happy with the animal you acquired, that's really all that matters. But somewhere along the line this name is getting crossed-up, or it could just be coincidental that someone's line of bloodreds are also being called this for whatever reason.

In any case, it's nice, so good luck with your new snake!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

it looks more like a motley diffused to me.... so before selling them as a "new gene AKA scarlet" i'd prove it out myself first.... see if it is indeed bloodred, motley, or a type of hypo(there are a few different hypos)

~kin
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~Sober Serpents~
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Corns, Creamsicles, A Black Rat, Thayeri, Cal Kings, A Jungle Corn(Just A Pet), A Ball Python, A Bearded dragon, Leopard Geckos, Green Anoles, a Snapping turtle, and a white cheeked mud turtle

I suppose that's possible too. And yes, like you mentioned, one can't really assume it's one thing or the other without test-breeding to prove it out one way or the other. It's Certainly a tough call going by just phenotypic "face value".

BTW, I do see the "motley" look you mentioned being expressed too. I'd like to know what the seller has to say about it's genetic background, that might certainly clear things up a bit for the original poster that bought it. I know that I would want to know EVERYTHING about any animal I purchased.

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Ive done got all the info in I can.. they are a retailer who got it in a trade with a local customer. I told them that its not really a scarlet by what i saw, they said this is what the other owner was calling it from his lines. No biggie ive got a male to put her with.

thanks

Mike
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My herps..
1.1 Amel bloodred corns
1.1 reverse okeetees
1.0 normal corn
1.0 Anery
1.2 Amel corn
1.1 Jasper county Okettee's(YES true locale specimens)
2.0 American alligators
0.1 Northern Copperhead
1.2 Timber rattlesnakes(canebrake phase)
2.3 black rat snakes
2.2 eastern hogs
1.0 Everglades rat
1.1 yellow rat
1.2 Albino monocled cobra

You stated you were going to pair her up as soon as she came in? Do you not practice quarentine? I could understand if it was from someone you knew, but you said it was from a retrailer who got it from someone else....just curious.
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Jenea
Guardian Reptiles

"When your memories are bigger than your dreams, you're headed for the grave" Author unknown

>>> "they said this is what the other owner was calling it from his lines".

That's pretty much what I suspected before,....now the situation makes some sense. And again, nice snake in any case!, good luck with it.

BTW, as the other poster mentioned, it really would be a good idea to quarantine the snake for a while, just in case. You might have already done this(I hope), but take a GOOD close look at the snake, especially around the rim of the ocular scale(eye-cap), and the spaces between the scales under the chin area for small dark mites. Those dudes can create total havoc on a collection.

best regards, ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

LOL.. yea guys she will be put separate for a few weeks. I diddnt mean Literally the second she got in here..lol.

thanks

Mike
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My herps..
1.1 Amel bloodred corns
1.1 reverse okeetees
1.0 normal corn
1.0 Anery
1.2 Amel corn
1.1 Jasper county Okettee's(YES true locale specimens)
2.0 American alligators
0.1 Northern Copperhead
1.2 Timber rattlesnakes(canebrake phase)
2.3 black rat snakes
2.2 eastern hogs
1.0 Everglades rat
1.1 yellow rat
1.2 Albino monocled cobra

Good question!I've never heard of one either but,there's one for sale in the classifieds.Looks like a bloodred to me. Jeff

In some parts of Florida that's what people call wild normals, scarlet corns or scarlet rat snakes. Even had a posting from a wildlife refuge about their scarlet corn snake with a beautiful pic of a nice normal corn.
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1.2 Ghost Corns, Beetlejuice, Casper and Spooky
1.1 Charcoal het pewter, Smokey and Flame
1.1 Hypo het lavender, Rosy and Rocko
1.0 Anery, Goku
0.1 Amel, Sunny
2.0 Tabby Cats, Daddycat and his son Brat
0.1 Australian Shepherd, Angel

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