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Female Peanut Butter, shed bred and fed.

Female Tri het for White Sided, Hypo and Axanthic, also just shed bred and fed.

Here's her mate, same genetics... this pair has been locked up for no less than 8 hours right now.

Female het for White Wall Speckled Kings

Pair of Cape York Spotted Pythons

Opaque but still cool looking White Sided Hypo Brooksi who is obviously growing nicely.

White Wall Speckled King

Het Lavs possible het Hypo Brooksi fathered by a Sulfur Lavender.


Tom Stevens
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TomsSnakes.com

No kidding on the hypo white-sided errr white-sided hypo... it's growly very nicely. Good luck w/ those 3x hets after their marathon!

Chris

Thanks, those breeding machine tri hets are the parents of the White Sided Hypo so he is 66% het Axanthic too.
Tom Stevens
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TomsSnakes.com

That speckled king is neat. Not the whitewall but the first one you showed. (not to say the whitewalls AREN'T neat.) Anyway, what part of the country are those from, originally?
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1.1 Florida Kingsnake
1.0 Kisatchie Cornsnake

Very Nice stuff...

The PB, Speck & WW Speck.... AWESOME!

fingers crossed for you with those 3x hets this season...

i hope for a few surprises myself!

l8r

~Z
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Floridana Morphs: Resource Site

Cool stuff Tom!,........could you just imagine stumbling onto a "white-wall" Speckled(and many other things for that matter) out in the wild 20 or more years ago????!!!!.LOL!

HA!, I'd be doing "back-flips" for a month!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

love the white wall speck as always. great pics!

As much as I like the WW speckleds I prefer the whitesdided hypo brooks. Probably because I don't have one.

Quad het hypo / axanthic / T negative / Peabut Butter

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I could have guessed that had PB in it....neat
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TomsSnakes.com

Good to see you, Bluerosy. Your boy Dexter is doing GREAT.
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1.1 Florida Kingsnake
1.0 Kisatchie Cornsnake

Not to be confrontational... but just sharing info...

From my research into the "Ultra/Ultramel" corns, it turns out when an Ultramel is bred to lets say a normal/non-morph the resulting offspring will be 50% het Ultra 50% het amel

seeing as the mechanism involved with the "jellies" is either VERY similar to the "Ultramel" or exactly the same... I would assume breeding a jelly to another morph or 2x morph would yield the same results.

i.e.

Jelly x Ghost = 50% will be 3x het Hypo, Axanthic & "Peanut butter" the other 50% will be 3x het Hypo, Axanthic, and Amelanistic (T-)

to sum it up... since "Peanutbutter" and Amelanistic (T-) are allelic it's impossible for them to occur simultaneously as HET in the same animal.

~ZF
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Floridana Morphs: Resource Site

Maybe i should post a pic of the rest of the clucth from the Pewter.

Zenny I bred a Jelly to a het PB and got both Jellies and PB's.

Maybe the cornsnake ultramel is different? I don't know. I have not worked with them and maybe it is the smae thing happening or at least the closets then we can describe. One thing for sure when you combine the PB with a axanthic and a PB with a jelly you will get different looking snbake. When you combine the PB OR jelly to the hypo or axanthic I bet some many different versions of new morphs will come out it will make my head spin.

But I think I know what Zenny is saying and that technically it is not a T neg anymore. But the T neg x PB does create different homozygoy morphs when combined with other seprate morphs.

.....I don't think I even understood what i just wrote.
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If Jellies work the way Ultramels work the results would be as follows

Jelly x Het PB WOULD yield Jellies AND PB

-the PB alleles pair up with the PB allele (you yield PB)
-the T- alleles pair up with the other unpaired PB alleles (hence jellies)
-rest of the clutch will be 100% het for PB OR T-

Jelly x Het T- would yield Jellies and Amelanistics (T-)

-the T- alleles pair up with the T- alleles (you get T-)
-the PB alleles pair up with the other unpaired T- alleles (you get jellies)
-rest of the clutch will be 100% het for PB OR T-

additionally:

- Jelly x PB = all PB and jellies

- Jelly x T- = all T- and Jellies

- Jelly x Jelly = PB, T-, and Jellies
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Floridana Morphs: Resource Site

hmm. Well I should try breeding a male jelly to a female T-. Never thought of that.

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