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After years of breeding normals to supply our local independent herp store, this winter I will be starting morphs for the first time. I have sold all of my breeders as well with the exception of a 0.1 normal (Andromeda) that I just couldnt part with. Here is what I have so far:

0.1 Normal
1.0 Pastel
1.1 Albino
0.1 Pied
1.0 100% Het Pied
1.1 100% Het Pastel
0.1 66% Pos Het Spider

Any Suggestioins?
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"What are you afraid of? What ever it is, it's here. That and things your little irrational mind couldn't even dream of."

Whats a 0.1 66% Pos Het Spider?
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Tosha
JET Pythons

There is no such thing as a het spider. They are a co dom morph not recessive. Other than that thats a good start! Breed some pieds and albinos and pastels.

No such thing as a het pastel either!!

I am. It was supposed to be this:

0.1 Normal
1.0 Pastel
1.1 Albino
0.1 Pied
2.1 100% Het Pied
0.1 66% Pos Het Gen Stripe
1.0 Spider
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"What are you afraid of? What ever it is, it's here. That and things your little irrational mind couldn't even dream of."

WWID?

I'd:

Sell off the hets and phs. - I hate working with hets. Buy a pied male for your pied female and pick up pastel female - cause you gotta have one of them.

Hey you asked!

LOL.
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Tosha
JET Pythons

spiders are dominant. there are no "supers" for them like in co dom morphs like pastels, mojaves, cinnys etc.

chris

there are no hets for pastels or spiders.....

chris

Yeah I corrected my typo above.
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"What are you afraid of? What ever it is, it's here. That and things your little irrational mind couldn't even dream of."

why would you need two 100% boys? if you only have one girl, seems like a waste,

and to one of the posters above, isnt the spider a Dom not a Co dom? what the hell is the super to the spider? i dont know of any. i could be wrong, i seem to always be wrong.

Jake

LOL everyone is talking turkey, its all gibberish to me but I would love to see some pictures when you get your projects going.
Foot Hill Reptiles

I will absolutley post pics as soon as I get started. Thanks Jason. I'll probably limit my self to just the pastel, spiders, albinos and pieds since personally those are my favorite morphs. Well, with the exception of Raplh Davis's dreamscicle of course!
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"What are you afraid of? What ever it is, it's here. That and things your little irrational mind couldn't even dream of."

Why in the h-e-double hockey sticks would you sell your normal female breeders?
Toss a morph male at them and you can get more morphs...

I hope you at least got a good price for them...
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"What is man without the beasts?
If all the beasts were gone,
men would die from great loneliness of spirit.
For what happens to the beasts,
soon happens to men.
All things are connected."

-Chief Seattle (Duwamish Tribe)

My answer would depend on whether they were all adults/breeding size and if you plan to sell the babies or grow them up to build your colony. Assuming they are all adults, then,

1. Pair one of the het pieds to the pied female, back up the male with the other het pied male. Sell the one het male who doesn't breed/lock up as well as the other. Keep your fingers crossed. Keep all pieds produced (hope one is a male so you can sell both het male pieds) and sell the hets.
2. Pair both het pied males to the het pied female. Sell what you produce.
3. Breed your albinos together. Keep one of the female hatchlings to grow up and sell the rest. If you don't get a female you might be able to trade a male albino hatchling for a female hatchling from another breeder.
4. Breed your albino male to your het g-stripe female (I just love albino g-stripes). Hold a pair of the double hets back and sell the others.
5. Breed your pastel and spider male to your normal female. Maybe you'll get lucky and get both snakes out of the clutch. (You'll probably wish you had kept more normal females instead of selling them). Hold back a pastel female and a spider female for future combos. Sell the rest.

I'm sure there are many different answers to your question . . . this is just how I'd do it. Good luck and let us know what you decide.
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Alice Cobb
Florida Reptile Room

Thanx for the info everyone. Like I said this is going to be my first run at morphs and I was quite confused.
Kingofspades, trust me I didn't want to sell ANY of my breeders but had to a few years ago. I was struggling and it was all I could do not to sell my racks and incubators as well but I was bound and determined to get back into the hobby someday and after getting a great job that day has arrived!
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"What are you afraid of? What ever it is, it's here. That and things your little irrational mind couldn't even dream of."

Oooooooh...
see, to me it sounded like you sold all the normal breeders to get into morphs.
Financial issues I can understand. There's been a few times lately that I've almost sold a few of my females to take care of money.

Sorry if my comment sounded rude.
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"What is man without the beasts?
If all the beasts were gone,
men would die from great loneliness of spirit.
For what happens to the beasts,
soon happens to men.
All things are connected."

-Chief Seattle (Duwamish Tribe)

I think Alice has some good ideas, I would also asap breed male pieds to het pied females and albino females and male albinos to het albino females and pied females. Also if your spider and pastel to normale produced both mophs I would produce bees asap. I realy like the albino pieds and any kind of bee. CM