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Did you do your part? Did YOU ?

boaphile Apr 30, 2008 02:57 PM

Cross posted with the permission of Kingsnake:

Did you do your responsibility and respond to the inquiry sent out on the federal register regarding the "Injurious Wildlife Species; Review of Information Concerning Constrictor Snakes From Python, Boa, and Eunectes genera," dated 31 January 2008?

Did you? Today is the final day. To date only about 1200 have responded. This is a pathetic percentage of the people involved in our business. I know this is a minimal percentage of the people involved, because I have more than twice this many customers who have made purchases from me. I'm sure TONS of people involved in this enterprise have never purchased anything from me.

This particular first step at limiting our ability to keep, breed and sell Boas and Pythons is almost certainly doomed to failure. At least this first battle that is. But what many of you apparently do not get is this IS a shot across the bow. This is a way for those intent on bringing this hobby down to see what they are up against. And the fact that most of you sat back and did absolutely nothing, gives them encouragement and shows the government who is going to be harmed and or offended by making any changes to our ability to keep, breed and sell our Boas and Pythons.

The animal rights nuts are not going away. They are only going to position themselves so their attempts are as effective as possible. They do not have a leg to stand on when it comes to the science. However, they have willing accomplices to lie and deceive. They have come to ridiculous anti-scientific conclusions as is evidenced by the maps that Gordon Rodda and his cartoonist friends came up with. The Burmese Pythons now thriving in the Everglades, have not and will not even make it out of the state of Florida. They are not adapted to environments other than what they can find in the Everglades. Northern Florida is just too cold in the winter time. They will not move North without dying of respiratory problems. This is easy to scientifically prove and thankfully we have legit scientist types working on this issue on our behalf. A bit more than a week ago the Washington Post ran an article, on the front page, that was devoid of scientific facts and loaded with propaganda to scare the masses. This is a topic perfectly tailored for prime time. It is incumbent on each and every one of us to do what we can. However, this is essentially a political fight that will be fought on many fronts. The Scientific battle is perhaps the easiest one in my estimation and we will win. However, this is not going to come down to calm heads looking at the facts and coming to a logical conclusion. This is far more than that. The public relations tug of war is one heavily weighed against us already. There is a giant on the other side with that robe tied around his massive waist, and it's going to take not only our scientific contributors, but a concerted effort to educate the public about the reality of what we do. Ideally we need a much more visible presence of what we do in a positive light. Plus we need each and every one of us to participate in every specific part of this engagement. This is your responsibility. Yours and mine!

The political portion of this fight is what DEMANDS YOUR participation! We and YOU must be active in our efforts to prevent any limitation of our ability to keep, breed and sell these animals. This will not just take care of itself. This effort will be stronger WITH YOUR participation and support than it will without it. I personally have already spent a great deal of effort and money getting geared up to make a difference. Many have made far more of a specific contribution in time and money to fighting this fight than I have. There is going to be a greater effort, the specifics of which will be forthcoming very shortly. We are ALL in this together. We need every singe individual to participate at some level.

I personally would like to extend my gratitude to the following who have made tremendous efforts above and far beyond the call of duty on our behalf. Bob Ashley, David and Tracy Barker, Jeff Barringer, Bill Brandt, Brian Potter, Louis Sangermano, Andrew Wyatt and PIJAC. I would also like to thank each individual who had a part if the meeting in Chicago where the start of a movement to help protect each of us occurred about a month ago. I perceive those folks and each person who responds to the Inquiry as having done me and my family a personal favor and as such, I am grateful. Thank you. Most people are not aware of what is being done on the behalf of each and every one of us. Your participation is not only needed, but in my view, something each one should feel a compelling obligation to engage in.

Jeff Barringer has put together a great detailed instructional page on how to respond. Please, please please do this. Yes, it will take some time and effort to digest and complete. But each one must do their part. This is the earliest stages of a struggle that is not going to go away. We must be conscience of this fact and do the right thing. This is exactly the same as ignoring mites you find in one cage. Sure it's not a problem really, right? But mark my words, if we do not mount an effort to protect ourselves, we will not be protected. Sure it may take a long time for this to happen, but we need to stop this in it's tracks in exactly the same way as you can't let mites get out of hand. The sky is not falling today. I am not trying to be an alarmist about this. However, each of us make sure it doesn't.

The following is a link to the detailed instructions that kingsnake.com has posted which PIJAC has written for each one of us:

Kingsnake Instructions for a reply to Fish and Wildlife

There is strength in numbers. If you have not completed the survey or sent your information previously to PIJAC as I did, please please please do this today.
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Replies (8)

viborero Apr 30, 2008 08:46 PM

Yes, I did. I wish more had done so as well.
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vichris May 01, 2008 12:40 AM

I've come to the conclusion that those who irresponsibly keep burms, retics, and hot snakes (there are more of them, than those who do keep them respondsibly) have already destroyed our hobby. Now all pythons and boas are being lumped into the mix. Even kingsnake and corn snake breeders are catching hell from local government authorities.

Its our own fault for breeding and putting $$$$$ before respondsibility. We've all seen the "types" at shows who we all know aren't ready to own a corn snake much less a retic.........but we all see them walking out with 2 burms a retic and an anaconda for good measure. Then we see the same kid 2 years later trying to sell his 9 foot "baby" out in the parking lot of the same show (at a discount rate). We no longer have herp shows in my town because if this kind of crap.

Big & hot snake keepers need to clean up their own act before you post here. Just my 2 cents.

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Vichris
"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane"- Marcus Aurelius

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viborero May 01, 2008 09:12 AM

I agree 100% with you, Chris, except a blanket ban is not the answer. I don't think a permit and PIT tag system for large constrictors is too unreasonable, though.
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Diego

bizkit421 May 01, 2008 09:45 AM

They start doing that and it's just a foot in the door to ban the hobby all together... It might take 20 years, but if we give them an inch, they will run for miles with it... I personally would love to be able to share my love of the hobby with my children, but I'm afraid that the government will see to it that it'll never happen...
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Brandon Osborne May 01, 2008 12:34 PM

Black Market. An ugly, but true, scenario that many will be forced to act upon.
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DMong May 01, 2008 12:48 PM

Yes,...no doubt that will absolutely become a reality if that does happen.

It won't stop the animals from being available, it will just stop them from being legally available, just as with Heroin, or Cocaine, or any number of other things in this country. I'm certainly not condoning either one, but it's essentially would be the same end result.

Sort of like the gun control laws,......only good law abiding citizens have a hard time obtaining them. You can't "un-invent" something once it's available, and there's a huge public demand for it.

I's just a silly-ass ploy that seems to "sound" good to a good majority of the general public that hates snakes,......which as we all know is unfortunately a MUCH larger percentage of the public than we are....very sad mentality indeed.....oh well.

~Doug
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JasonW May 05, 2008 12:57 PM

While I don't agree with the ban I do see there side of the story, I mean someone somewhere was not a responsible snake keeper, And now in the good ol USA you can go field herping for large constrictors, I would have no problem applying for and paying for a license to keep my Pythons and sell the young. I did not complain or fight it when they told me I had to get my Class B to drive the Fire engines, Its simply that a need for specialized equipment and training is needed for keeping large constrictors and an uneducated under equipped person should not be able to get one until they are ready for it. just my opinion.
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JasonW May 01, 2008 12:51 PM

I must agree with you. I was sold my first Burm at the age of 15 from a local breeder at the time. Luckily my parents were ok with it but not at 29yo I cringe at thinking hey, this person just sold one of the largest snakes in the world to a 15yo kid? oh well though. I don't think a ban in right but in my mind they will do it anyway if they really want to.
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