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Did you do your part? Did YOU ?

boaphile Apr 30, 2008 03:03 PM

Cross posted with the permission of Kingsnake:

Did you do your responsibility and respond to the inquiry sent out on the federal register regarding the "Injurious Wildlife Species; Review of Information Concerning Constrictor Snakes From Python, Boa, and Eunectes genera," dated 31 January 2008?

Did you? Today is the final day. To date only about 1200 have responded. This is a pathetic percentage of the people involved in our business. I know this is a minimal percentage of the people involved, because I have more than twice this many customers who have made purchases from me. I'm sure TONS of people involved in this enterprise have never purchased anything from me.

This particular first step at limiting our ability to keep, breed and sell Boas and Pythons is almost certainly doomed to failure. At least this first battle that is. But what many of you apparently do not get is this IS a shot across the bow. This is a way for those intent on bringing this hobby down to see what they are up against. And the fact that most of you sat back and did absolutely nothing, gives them encouragement and shows the government who is going to be harmed and or offended by making any changes to our ability to keep, breed and sell our Boas and Pythons.

The animal rights nuts are not going away. They are only going to position themselves so their attempts are as effective as possible. They do not have a leg to stand on when it comes to the science. However, they have willing accomplices to lie and deceive. They have come to ridiculous anti-scientific conclusions as is evidenced by the maps that Gordon Rodda and his cartoonist friends came up with. The Burmese Pythons now thriving in the Everglades, have not and will not even make it out of the state of Florida. They are not adapted to environments other than what they can find in the Everglades. Northern Florida is just too cold in the winter time. They will not move North without dying of respiratory problems. This is easy to scientifically prove and thankfully we have legit scientist types working on this issue on our behalf. A bit more than a week ago the Washington Post ran an article, on the front page, that was devoid of scientific facts and loaded with propaganda to scare the masses. This is a topic perfectly tailored for prime time. It is incumbent on each and every one of us to do what we can. However, this is essentially a political fight that will be fought on many fronts. The Scientific battle is perhaps the easiest one in my estimation and we will win. However, this is not going to come down to calm heads looking at the facts and coming to a logical conclusion. This is far more than that. The public relations tug of war is one heavily weighed against us already. There is a giant on the other side with that robe tied around his massive waist, and it's going to take not only our scientific contributors, but a concerted effort to educate the public about the reality of what we do. Ideally we need a much more visible presence of what we do in a positive light. Plus we need each and every one of us to participate in every specific part of this engagement. This is your responsibility. Yours and mine!

The political portion of this fight is what DEMANDS YOUR participation! We and YOU must be active in our efforts to prevent any limitation of our ability to keep, breed and sell these animals. This will not just take care of itself. This effort will be stronger WITH YOUR participation and support than it will without it. I personally have already spent a great deal of effort and money getting geared up to make a difference. Many have made far more of a specific contribution in time and money to fighting this fight than I have. There is going to be a greater effort, the specifics of which will be forthcoming very shortly. We are ALL in this together. We need every singe individual to participate at some level.

I personally would like to extend my gratitude to the following who have made tremendous efforts above and far beyond the call of duty on our behalf. Bob Ashley, David and Tracy Barker, Jeff Barringer, Bill Brandt, Brian Potter, Louis Sangermano, Andrew Wyatt and PIJAC. I would also like to thank each individual who had a part if the meeting in Chicago where the start of a movement to help protect each of us occurred about a month ago. I perceive those folks and each person who responds to the Inquiry as having done me and my family a personal favor and as such, I am grateful. Thank you. Most people are not aware of what is being done on the behalf of each and every one of us. Your participation is not only needed, but in my view, something each one should feel a compelling obligation to engage in.

Jeff Barringer has put together a great detailed instructional page on how to respond. Please, please please do this. Yes, it will take some time and effort to digest and complete. But each one must do their part. This is the earliest stages of a struggle that is not going to go away. We must be conscience of this fact and do the right thing. This is exactly the same as ignoring mites you find in one cage. Sure it's not a problem really, right? But mark my words, if we do not mount an effort to protect ourselves, we will not be protected. Sure it may take a long time for this to happen, but we need to stop this in it's tracks in exactly the same way as you can't let mites get out of hand. The sky is not falling today. I am not trying to be an alarmist about this. However, each of us make sure it doesn't.

The following is a link to the detailed instructions that kingsnake.com has posted which PIJAC has written for each one of us:

Kingsnake Instructions for a reply to Fish and Wildlife

There is strength in numbers. If you have not completed the survey or sent your information previously to PIJAC as I did, please please please do this today.
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Replies (3)

Elaphefan May 01, 2008 12:52 PM

While I agree with some of your issues, an arguement that the sky is falling is not the answer.

There is a problem with exotic animals and plants in the everglades. The problem with Burmese Pythons in the everglades is real. What do you think needs to be done to solve the problem and to keep it from getting worse?

Should we be selling snakes that grow to be 20 feet long or more to anyone with the cash? Snakes that size take special care and housing. Shouldn't a person buying such an animal have to show that they have a safe and secure place to keep it? Shouldn't we require persons wanting to buy such animals to get a permit that confirms that they will have a home for the animal when it gets to its adult size?

While I would not like to see a total ban on the sale of such animals, I would like to see some changes made.

They are not trying to ban the sale of all snakes. This is not a shot across the bow, but this is the hoisting of a red flag that tells us that we do need to make some changes.

It would be wrong to lump ball pythons in with Burmese Pythons, just as it would be wrong to lump lions in with house cats. Still, buying a Burmese Pythons to me is like buying a lion. Not everyone should be able to do so.

DMong May 01, 2008 01:05 PM

Something DOES need to change regarding them, but I'm not sure which will ultimately end up being the lesser of the two evils.

Definitely some pros and cons as you know. I couldn't agree more with you about 12 year old "little Johnny" asking his mom for a cute little pet snake, and three years later it's killing his neighbors dog in front of the kids in the "hood".

I've been heavily into snakes for 41 years now, and I have seen more irresponsibility in recent years regarding snakes to last me a hundred lifetimes. And CERTAINLY not just large constrictors!.........I view a good portion of the general public as morons anyway. This is a fact that's hard to dispute.

best regards ~Doug
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Alan Garry May 01, 2008 07:43 PM

Keep in mind. Our hobby's opposition is trying to lump all of them (ball pythons, burms, other constrictors)together. What if your State proposes a ban on all constricting snakes, that have the potential to reach or exceed 6 feet. That's just about my whole collection, and all I have is colubrids. While I agree with you that large python species shouldn't be sold to a kid just because he has money, I have to disagree with the possibility of these snakes ranging any distance out of the everglades. IMHO, anyone who does believe that, is saying the sky is falling.
One thing I'm sadly noticing in this hobby is that more than a few people have too much faith in how laws are written and enforced. While you may agree with part of what is being proposed, ask yourself this. Are you ready to give up the hobby you love? You know as well as I do (or at least you should) how lawmakers like to pass blanket laws, or worse yet, bans, because it's less work for them, yet they still make their mark. My 2 cents. Alan,

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