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OZZ1978 May 01, 2008 06:11 PM

Sulfur snow male doing his thing ... sweet

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Brandon Osborne May 01, 2008 06:24 PM

>>Sulfur snow male doing his thing ... sweet
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You do realize, you are probably going to get all normals triple het for axanthic, sulfur lav, and sulfur axanthic don't you? Unless the snow is het for the same strain of axanthic or vice versa, which knowing Rainer's stock it could be, they will all be normals. Take my word on it though, that sulfur gene is potent. Good luck.

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OZZ1978 May 01, 2008 07:33 PM

Im aware of that, there is speculation that it is compatible but Im not holding my breath, if I end up with axanthics het for sulfer lav that will be great, but Im certainly fine with triple het normals as well ..

Thanks for the input though and good luck to you and your projects as well.

daveb May 01, 2008 09:12 PM

be prepared for surprises! in '06 I paired an axanthic white side to a nice snow, expecting to get 100% axanthics double het for albino and whiteside. What I did get were one maybe two axanthics and a whole bunch of normals. Apparently the axanthic gene in the two breeders was (at least in part) different. Very interesting at the time because not many were discussing the possibility or existance of different axanthic genes.

Good luck with the pairing, keep us updated on the results.
daveb

OZZ1978 May 02, 2008 08:42 AM

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OZZ1978 May 02, 2008 03:49 PM

... is the fact that you only got two axanthics and THEN normals.

That to me is just flat out weird. Whats going on with these brooksi?? lol ...

Ive always "known", at least in other species (boas, balls), that anery or axanthic were simple recessive mutations.

Sure its possible that theres two types of axanthic gene and that they are not compatible. However, if that was the case you would think you then would have ALL normals that were het for both types of axanthic (and in your case whiteside and lav).

Either that or they would have been compatbile and you got all axanthics het for lav/white as you had planned on.

The fact that the gene "partly" matched up to the other and produced a few axanthics is just flat out against everything I thought I ever knew about genetics... lol

Weird .....

interesting ....

..... fun!

Im anxious to see what will come of it ...

ZFelicien May 02, 2008 04:08 PM

The Male is an Axanthic WS... the female is a Snow

The female is Likely a Expressing the Anery (Black and White) gene simultaneously with Lavender and is additionally HET Axanthic

Bred to an Axanthic WS the results make sense...

So the two axanthics would be 3x het for Lavender, Anery, and White-sided...

I got my hands on one of those axanthics recently... wish i jumped on these when Dave 1st had them available...

~Z

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daveb May 02, 2008 08:33 PM

>>I got my hands on one of those axanthics recently... wish i jumped on these when Dave 1st had them available...

so do I, lol!
daveb

Brandon Osborne May 02, 2008 07:23 PM

>>Sure its possible that theres two types of axanthic gene and that they are not compatible. However, if that was the case you would think you then would have ALL normals that were het for both types of axanthic (and in your case whiteside and lav).
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It could just be the one was het for the other strain of axanthic. If you have an animal that expresses the Lemke strain, and the other that expresses another strain but is het for Lemke, you could still get a percentage of Lemke axanthics. With everything that gets mixed in it's a bit harder to keep track of.
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OZZ1978 May 02, 2008 08:11 PM

which would make the rest of the litter 66% possibles for that type of axanthic (the type expressed in the two littermates).

Now that makes sense to me ... lol ... but having a trait that is known to be recessive express itself in only a small portion of the litter was just odd ...

OZZ1978 May 01, 2008 07:35 PM

Didnt mean to post the same pic twice

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