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Odds Can Really Stink

SPJ01 May 06, 2008 09:34 AM

dominant morph x normal
5 eggs
6 babies (twins in one)
ALL NORMALS.

Replies (15)

ruddmic May 06, 2008 10:52 AM

Try breeding pastel to pastel, 7 eggs and NO SUPERS. It blows but in the long run your odds will work out.

NorthernRegius May 06, 2008 11:33 AM

Next time...

LadyOhh May 06, 2008 11:35 AM

He will now go down in history...

LOL!!!!!!!!!
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www.HeathersHerps.com

-Ohh, what a Lady-

Balls for Life, Baby!

jyohe May 06, 2008 03:45 PM

I had a couple no super clutches...and a no pastel ghost batch too......

yes it suxx.....

......fingers crossed for this year huh...
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mikebell May 06, 2008 11:57 AM

Last year I had two clutches from het albino females bred to albino males laid on the same day, 9 eggs and 6 eggs. The 6 egg clutch was from a proven het. The other female is a het bred by myself. Her mother was a het also produced here that was only bred to albino males. There is no possibility of retained sperm from any other male. I cut all 15 eggs on the same day and got zero albinos. Like I said the 6 egg female has produced albinos before. I'm anxious to see this year what the 9 egg female produces. I don't see any way that she isn't a het, except for some kind of freak of nature.

As far as odds averaging out over time, I'm still waiting. I have hatched a lot of albinos over the years and never got 50% from het females and albino males. I have beat the odds on other things, so maybe it does average out in a way.
Mike

BRC May 06, 2008 12:48 PM

LMAO......

Thanks Heather and Rudd......I missed that clutch but produced a clutch of EPIC pastels shortly after.....then I bought a super pastel.

Rodneyed.
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LadyOhh May 06, 2008 12:53 PM

New Definition in the tombs of Ball Python teminology..

LOL!!
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-Ohh, what a Lady-

Balls for Life, Baby!

BRC May 06, 2008 12:58 PM

I hate you.
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blackrockcaptives.com

LadyOhh May 06, 2008 02:15 PM

Don't lie.

You know you love me..

and my Froad.
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www.HeathersHerps.com

-Ohh, what a Lady-

Balls for Life, Baby!

pfan151 May 06, 2008 01:10 PM

What was the dominant morph?
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John Vandegrift

SPJ01 May 06, 2008 06:16 PM

toshamc May 06, 2008 01:35 PM

That sucks -- but look on the bright side - next year you'll likely get twice as many morphs - so as to even up the odds. Happens all the time.
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Tosha
JET Pythons

SPJ01 May 07, 2008 06:06 PM

Well, there is still time this year. More clutches to go so hopefully the odds will be with me.

RandyRemington May 06, 2008 09:25 PM

Last year I got a normal female back from a breeding loan to a pastel male. She laid 5 eggs and I was all excited about hatching my first morphs. As they started to slit there where a couple where the color wasn't fully developed and I thought I had it only to find out a day later it was 5 normals. Then to add insult to injury they where all male! That's 1 in 1,024 bad luck if you consider both missing pastel 5 times in a row and missing female 5 times in a row. But maybe the luck will go our way in the next clutch!

Melinda666 May 07, 2008 02:26 PM

het caramel x het caramel

1st year breeding, zero eggs
2nd year breeding 7 eggs, all normal
3rd year breeding, so far nothing, zippo, notta, bupkis

argh!!
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