Not really Dave, I normally start out putting things together in their normal enclosures, and I always like to witness the matings if at all possible. But the way this youngster kept fumbling around and never penetrating, got me to thinking I'll throw them in the nice bare tub for a while next to me while I'm working on the computer, that way, I could monitor the situation a little better, and I'd clearly be able to see any evidence in the tub if I happened to miss it.
Another good thing was that this female was EXTREMELY cooperative with him during all the tail clinging with nothing happening, she held still and put up with his awkwardness for quite a long time during the course of their several day on and off introduction.
What was REALLY funny, was when I saw the female look up and "yawn" as he was tail clinging without any penetration, as if to say..."C'mon little man, this boring foreplay is gettin' old!"..LOL!!!.........wish I had my camera for THAT "Kodak" moment!
later!, ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"