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If the pattern holds.....

Tony D May 13, 2008 10:30 AM

I'll have hypo coastals Thursday. Can't wait to see what came out of this years pairings!!!

Replies (11)

shannon brown May 13, 2008 11:13 AM

nice, can't wait to see either.

Shannon

DMong May 13, 2008 01:05 PM

Those little dudes are sweet lookin'!!, Im sure there won't be any ugly one in the entire clutch either!..LOL!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Patton May 13, 2008 01:15 PM

If there are Tony? I'll take the ugly ones! LOL!!
-Phil
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Work is the curse
of the drinking class!

Tony D May 14, 2008 11:13 AM

Phil, aren't you worried that the knowing purchase of a non-locality morph might get you excommunicated? Eating wings and drinking beer with us non-believers is one thing but this is a big leap. LOL!! BTW hope to meet up with you guys this weekend.

cn013 May 13, 2008 01:30 PM

Congrats Tony... look forward to seeing what pops out this year! I'm sure you'll have a few more screamers!

Chris

Dniles May 13, 2008 10:00 PM

Very nice Tony. Looking forward to seeing what you get. Post pics please!

Dave
DNS Reptiles

pweaver May 14, 2008 09:22 AM

how do you get eggs so fast? My hypo just laid her eggs a week ago...
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Paul Weaver
Carolina Herps

Tony D May 14, 2008 11:08 AM

Well I pulled them up 2/15. They bred almost as soon as they were up and activity (female interest) pretty much ended by the end of the month (3/1). Eggs started showing up 30 days later on 4/1. My average incubation time is 45 days at ambient temps which puts me right at 5/15.

BTW the female that produced your possible het double clutched this year. I got six out of eight good eggs on the first clutch and ten out of ten on the second! The only real disapointment on the coastal front this year was that the double hets for hypo stripes did not produce.

BTW the medium in the photo was not as wet as it appears.

pweaver May 14, 2008 11:14 AM

very cool.

The possible-het that you mentioned is gravid also. I bred her to a hypo male so hopefully I'll get some good eggs and find out if she is really a het or not. If she is it would be nice to get some Tyrrell-ish looking hypos.
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Paul Weaver
Carolina Herps

Tony D May 14, 2008 12:32 PM

Paul in my experience this hypo trait manafests in the het state. The possible hets that have proven out to be hets have also been the lightest and brightest of the clutch. I don't price them differently because coastals can show a wide range of variability in a given clutch but its proven out time and again, at least in my mind, that the most colorful have been actual hets.

To top this off Dan D and Carl B were over my place many years back when I showed them a definate het produced by breeding my original male to a w/c female. Dan missed the piece about the snake being captive-bred and only heard w/c. When he saw the snake he got all excited saying that "this snake looks like a gene carrier". This to me indicated that Dan too has seen the pattern of lighter colored animals being het.

In any case I will be VERY surprised if your "possible" het turns out not to be a het. Any chance you could post a pic of her again?

Aaron May 15, 2008 01:15 AM

Great looking snake. Looking forward to seeing those hatchlings.

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