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Patternless Anerythristic & cubed motley

KJUN May 20, 2008 04:11 PM

Neat little siblings........

The "white thing" sure looks neat with the snow like pattern, dark eyes, and slight grey wash to the head, doesn't it?

KJ

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KJUN May 20, 2008 04:13 PM

Not all full siblings, but her is an image of a patternless anerA, "hypo" cubed, normal cubed, and the "white thing." Of course, cubed is the same thing as the old "sunspot" term.

KJ

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tspuckler May 20, 2008 05:40 PM

Those are pretty sweet!

Tim
Third Eye
Third Eye

DMong May 20, 2008 06:50 PM

Very nice!,....I actually like the patternless anery the most. It has a unique "metal" look to it!

best regards, ~Doug
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KJUN May 21, 2008 06:19 PM

Thanks, everyone. I was actually breeding for the "patternless" anerythristic. Those are still really uncommon, but they do exist.

I'm so excited about the "white thing" because it wasn't expected. It's certainly new.

KJ
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DonSoderberg May 21, 2008 07:23 PM

I have NO idea what those white ones are, other than guessing they are some extreme form of hypo. Duh!? Hypo A?B?C? in concert with something else? Hypo D?/E?/F?

Can't wait for breeding trials to see what the heck those are.

Congratulations!

Don
South Mountain Reptiles

wisema2297 May 22, 2008 02:04 PM

If I where to imagine a cubed hypo lav, maybe that's what it would look like? Maybe a cubed ghost.........what ever it is it should be fun figuring it out!!

KJUN May 22, 2008 02:08 PM

>>If I where to imagine a cubed hypo lav, maybe that's what it would look like? Maybe a cubed ghost.........what ever it is it should be fun figuring it out!!

All the striped ghosts (and cubed ghosts = not many) that I've seen have been MUCH darker than this RIGHT out of the egg. My first thought was "lavender," too. (I assume you mean lavender and not lava.) Lavender is not KNOWN in this line, and the parents are not related to each other. PLUS, the eyes aren't quite right for "lavender," but the snakes haven't had their post-hatch shed yet. Maybe the eyes will look lavender-ish after that shed. It's possible. I'm not holding my breath on it, though.

With that said, I plan to breed at least the male to a hypo lavender next year to check for HypoA and lavedner. I'm with you - it is WORTH checking!

Thanks,
KJ
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KJUN Snakehaven
Pituophis.net

dustyrhoads May 20, 2008 06:56 PM

Love the Patternless Anery, KJ. Really unique morph.

DR
Suboc.com

adamjeffery May 22, 2008 06:01 PM

a couple years back i hatched a couple similiar to the "white one"
they looked like snows but the eyes were diff. after they shed they darkened up and were ghosts. maybe yours are differant but mine looked close to the same(except not motley)
to this day they get darker with each shed, whats weird is the ugly ghost babies turned out the nicest and the nicest babies are getting ugly.
adam
attached are pics of said baby(just before shed, whiter at birth) one pic with a ghost and another after baby shed.

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KJUN May 22, 2008 07:59 PM

Hey:

That one in your image looks like a typical ghost to me. What's next to it? An anerythristic Type A? ...or do the images just look wrong on MY MONITOR? You know how that happens.

I've produced WELL over 500 ghosts in the last decade (and at least as many snows), and these look NOTHING like regular ghosts.....so far. These are even MUCH more lighter than my ultramel anerythristic motleys. Amazing.
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DonSoderberg May 22, 2008 11:53 PM

I've personally produced 1,000 hypo A variants of ghosts. I've personally never seen one like those. If someone is producing some like those, they need to step up with photos AND genetic lineage so we can figure out what makes them so pale.

Don
South Mountain Reptiles

adamjeffery May 30, 2008 07:46 PM

not sure if your asking me for the genetic lineage of my snakes or not?
but my female is a normal het anery A het hypo A, i purchased her from a friend in 2001 as a 3 year old adult, he purchased her from his local(napierville ill) pet shop who recieved their stock from the chicago reptile house.
the male is a snow het hypo i have no back ground on him at all.
like i said in my response to kjun the photo turned out making both darker than they actually are. both were ghosts but the lighter one had a red center and a puplish outer ring to her eyes.
it was the only year i had produced any red eyed ghosts and i had produced a pair but the female got loose and i have the male still. both would get darker with each shed and the male i have is still darkening with each shed. my other ghosts i kept from that year actually keep getting lighter with each shed so thats what i have in regards to those.
i wasnt trying to insinuate anything other than mine looked similiar in color at birth.
adam
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" a.k.a. farfrumugen "
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.

adamjeffery May 30, 2008 07:35 PM

the photo actually sucks but its the only one i have.
they are both ghosts but the lighter one hatched almost white and with a red inner part of eye (pupil?) but with a purplish outer ring (retna?) i was just saying i thought they were similiar looking to what mine were at hatching. i wasnt trying to say that you for sure had ghosts just that they looked similiar. but as far as mine go the photo made both snakes out to be darker than they actually were. they are both ghosts and i will have to see but i had a photo next to an anery as well.
adam
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" a.k.a. farfrumugen "
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.

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