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I rescued this one from a pet shop.
It wasn't for sale cause it wouldn't eat.
I managed to convince them to let me have it for free.
What do you all think, scarlet king?

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Mike B

Hmmmn first off great save with the lil' scarlet. I'd like a better shot as I don't have my glasses!! Just the same wish you the best of luck with that beautiful animal. Feel free to PM me if you're not already well versed on their care... Do you even have a guess at the locale of the animal?

Chris

Yes, it was found in Pinellas County, Fl.

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Mike B

Dude?!? I live in Pinellas County... are you here as well? Well it's certainly a SK -- great animal as well...

Chris

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Yeah Chris, I'm in Clearwater.
Responding to your PM shortly!

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Mike B

HAHAHA!!,..I told you that awesome elapsoides would go over well here!.....wait til some of the others get a chance to look at it, I'm sure you'll get a few more interesting compliments on it then as well!.....NICE!,....VERY NICE!

I knew Chris would like it!..hahaha!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Holy Cats!
What are the odds on strolling into a pet shop, finding a rather unique elapsoides and strolling out with the snake free of charge?
Wait, that's not all! Then find out that Chris (Mr temporalis and elapsoides himself) is a neighbor!

Those are probably the widest yellow bands I've ever seen on a scarlet.
Jeff

>>HAHAHA!!,..I told you that awesome elapsoides would go over well here!.....wait til some of the others get a chance to look at it, I'm sure you'll get a few more interesting compliments on it then as well!.....NICE!,....VERY NICE!
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>> I knew Chris would like it!..hahaha!
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>> ~Doug
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>>"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"
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The rich require an abundant supply of the poor. - Voltaire

Jeff,...Boy!, do I agree with THAT!
I told him on another forum that that thing was 'mind-blowing" with the wide unique yellow bands, and that many people in the know would give their left @#$% to own that animal!..LOL!

It is funny that Chris(of all people) live right there in the same location too!..HA!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Heya Jeff... that is a standout scarlet for sure. Hmmmmn funny thing is that I know there are but a handful of potential sources for the animal locally... well it's a holiday weekend and I feel like I need to go for a long walk =)

Have a safe one...
Chris

I'd be interested?!? LOL... nice call. There's generally something to be said about predictability...
Though with the rampant destruction of all but a tiny fraction of suitable habitat - the locale status of that stellar, beautiful lil' SK is far more interesting to me. Frankly even an 'ugly' one would have me excited...
The entire story is great... the fact that it was rescued from a pet shop -- saved from a potentially awful circumstance! Not every day you hear of a 'feel good' story when the plotline incorporates snakes and pet shops...

Chris

I'll just guess the pet shop was offering anole chunks and skink bits with hour old pinks to the snake - poor thing - all he wanted was a crusty cricket or an earthworm.

Place your bets folks: cn012 will find or produce an albino elapsoides before Lebanon acquires a government.
Any takers? (they're equally unlikely)
Jeff
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The rich require an abundant supply of the poor. - Voltaire

HAHAHA!!,...too dang funny Jeff!....all the above!..LOL!

That reminds me,....I remember talking to the dude that had the first(known?)albino Scarlet King back in 1996. I could just friggin' IMAGINE raking leaves in the yard, and flippin' an albino Scarlet King onto it's back from a backwards stroke of the rake!.......what a feeling THAT must have been when he looked down to discover what it was!.....WOW!

Again Jeff,.....what are the odds that a "HERPER" would discover it raking his yard!?.....the odds of that are truly astronomical!

~Doug

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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

I tend to not always like the albino versions of most tricolors... that scarlet is very cool. Perhaps I am just a bit too biased...

Chris

I would have to agree,........the beauty, and absolute rarity of that animal would truly be something to behold!. I would also be extremely biased in that sense as well!..LOL! what a little "jewel".

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Ok......I didn't know they existed......

are they around and available/??.........

........I'm still not raking the yard..........((I actually just rented a "Billy Goat"" yard vacuum and sucked and shredded them up and threw them into a pile.......)) I guess if I lived down south I would need to actually manually work at it......eeeeewww...

.Thanxx for the pic........first I have seen it.....
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No,...they're certainly not available,....and I think that guy might of even had his albino die on him years ago. It also seems that people were having big trouble with some hets that he DID produce, because I was thinking about buying some from him years ago myself, but I already spent a couple grand on some other project animals back then. I would have thought by now there would be some available, but obviously the few people that had the hets had some serious trouble rearing them.

I believe the albino pic I posted is a totally different albino than the one I talked about being captured while the guy was raking his lawn, I'm pretty sure that one died(very unfortunate).

A year or two ago, Shannon and I posted here about albino Scarlets, and I believe this pic I posted came from someone he knew, or at least knew ABOUT as I recall. However, I don't know if there is actually any LIVE specimens now in existence. Maybe Shannon could shed some more light as to any whereabouts on them. Makes me wish I DID get a pair of hets years ago!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Thanxx Man............

.....kinda sad....they are so small and such a pain to get to eat when little......it will take forever to get alot of hypo or albinos of them around......

....the wild ones I bought (traded actually) years ago did well for me......a couple took pinks and the rest took peromyscus pinks almost right awy.....they ate ,grew a little and bred for me the next year......I only got the one clutch and all 3 eggs hatched......of them 1 ate 2 wouldn't right awy so I sold them all as is to a guy that was pretty smart......they all died.......guess he wasn't as smart as I thought he was.....

.....sad that there are still people going down south every year and catching as many of them as possible......every year......like up to 80 in a trip.......I even heard a story of one stump in the swamp where they ripped it apart and got 30 from that one stump......not sure on that story.....but I do know about alot of the other numbers being true......you should see how little and skinny some of them are......

Thanxx again..good luck.......

JY
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Who could believe it ... outside doing yardwork and finding an amel triangulum??? Seems like I've heard that story somewhere before, lol.

Just kidding of course.

Now seriously, that is a beauty!
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Joe

That is very funny coming from you!, You've already HAD your one in a million w/c albino!..LOL!!

Were YOU also raking leaves outside with a silver horseshoe in your back pocket?..

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Not raking leaves and no silver horseshoe, but we had just finished doing some yard work when we found him slithering in the grass, out in the open belive it or not!
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Joe

n/p
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Joe found an amel temporalis???......
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Amel L.t.triangulum.
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Joe

cool.........what state?
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..breed it well....................LOL
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MA. Hope to get him breeding next year.
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Joe

Joe, you most likely saved his life also.Amel's succumb to predation rather easily.

Great find my friend.

L8r Shannon

That was my first thought Shannon. Normally when I find a snake I show it to the kids to teach them, and then release it. I knew this guy was unique, but almost released him. Thought he had a better chance of survival in my care than in the wild.
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Joe

Good thinking on your part.

L8r Shannon

That snake would have a much better chance of survival in MY CARE!..LOL!!!...........hey!, it doesn't hurt to try,..right..haha!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Well funny you mention it Jeff I've heard of 'a couple' animals from proximal (in relation to me) southern counties. I'd like to think the genes are down there and just need but be found... time may tell. It'd be a stretch to even put it on a wish list...

Now to correlate that to any of the goings on in the bewildered Middle-East is quaint. Though sadly enough I do have a better chance of acquiring an amel. elapsoides. A locale specific one @ that! I could keep going by making her a gravid female ready to drop, etc!! Now an anerythristic scarlet is something I'd like to see... even just some more aberrant high-black animals w/o much red.

Only relevant as being on-topic -- the male below is a het-hypo from Jaap Kooij's stock and just sired a clutch of 5 solid eggs w/ his het. hypo female counterpart. I'll get pics up of her soon.

Chris

So you have a japenese honduran milksnake that is awsome. Hook me up lol.
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i'm not over weight i'm under tall

I think that was his name??

He was breeding some scarlet kings, producing a good number of them every season a couple years back. He had some scarlet kings that were at least 85% black. Good looking snakes.

There is an albino scarlet king in captivity isn't there?
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles Inc.
www.kingpinreptiles.com

How true Chris!,.......How VERY TRUE!

It's also very sad about the loss of habitat,......an ugly wheel that will never stop turning! When I see vast expanses of cleared land, I can't help but to wonder about all the cool animals that must have been burried alive by the bulldozers in the process.....very disheartening indeed.

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Not sure if this link will work here, but did anybody notice this albino that was posted in the photo phorum?

http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/index.php?user=110536&cat=500

Did anybody contact Jeannie and get some info on this snake?
Could be a small breeding group of albino elaps in this persons basement!
C'mon guys this your chance! A girl (I assume) with an albino scarlet king is known as darlin'.
Jeff
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The rich require an abundant supply of the poor. - Voltaire

Wow Jeff!,....that's a killer coincidence!, A couple years back as I mentioned before in my previous post, I think Shannon posted that very same photo, I had it saved on my computer ever since then.

I wonder what the heck the deal is on them?(scratch head!) I wonder if that was a wild caught and it also "croaked" as well?, I certainly hope not, but people seem to have some pretty poor luck with them thar dudes, I would do WHATEVER it took to keep one going, even if it meant enrolling it in DAYCARE!.

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Oh yeah Jeff.... I knew about it. Just never really followed through w/ looking into it... I've scrutinized it alot. Funny actually made me think I 'wanted' one just to document the progression into adulthood!

Happy Memorial Day,

Chris