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Caudo surprise!

Neal_ May 25, 2008 06:50 PM

Seems that May is a good month for monitor beeders. We had some lizard happenings this week that I thought were worth sharing.

Monday I was walking by the trough with the adult caudolineatus breeding group and glanced in. I saw a hatchling inside, against the trough wall. At first it didn’t really register with me as I kept walking. Then I looked again and my mind flipped for a moment. It was indeed a hatchling caudo.

All week long I have been finding hatchlings caudolineatus in the trough that houses the adult breeding group. I thought it was only 4, but number 5 was seen Friday morning. Others have reported similar happenings with captive varanids, but it was still surprising to me.

Some of you might recall, a female caudolineatus laid a clutch of eggs Dec 12 and another on Jan 17. Those clutches were incubated normally and hatched out healthy and strong this spring. I’ve been busy with work, hiking/herping, etc this spring and have not been observing them very closely, so I‘ve been wondering what was going on with them. I’m guessing these hatchlings are probably from a clutch laid in late Feb or thereabouts. So now I’m wondering how many other clutches I’ve missed? Guess we’ll see what happens.

One funny thing was watching a hatchling work hard at wearing down an adult cricket and then dad ran up and stole the cricket. I thought about leaving them in with the adults in the hopes I could see them go from egg to egg in that setup. That would be kinda cool. Chickened out though. I was too worried that something bad might happen to them. They were in the adult setup for at least a few days and the fifth one is still in there (haven’t caught it yet). A number of things have been observed, however I don’t think I’ll go into all of it here. Talking about anything that may relate to varanids being social seems to cause trouble. But I will say that I almost thought I saw mom beaming with pride. LOL Maybe she was happy to have finally defeated that egg stealing ape. I do remember that after laying her second clutch it seemed as though she had went to a lot of effort to make fake nest tunnels.

I found it interesting to observe hatchlings making the choice of using the 150F surface temps in the adult setup. Normally my storri and caudolineatus hatchlings start out in small setups that have basking sites with surface temps around 120F.


first one that I spotted in the adult’s trough.


These are the four hatched out around March 1st and one of the hatchlings that just recently hatched out in the adult setup. I reckon those four will be breedable before long.

One of the recent hatchlings hanging with the adults- pic was through the lexan lid so its not the best.

Replies (16)

FR May 25, 2008 08:25 PM

Congrats Neal, we have had that happen several times, and I too was chicken too, hahahahahahaha.

Yea, hushup about that social talk, blasphy I tell you. Cheers

jburokas May 25, 2008 08:27 PM

Congrats Neal. That's a pretty cool find.

What's with the white backgrounds on the pics? Did you photoshop the backgrounds out or something?

Krusty

Neal_ May 25, 2008 08:45 PM

Thanks. Look closer. It is a white bucket. Yeah right, like I’m smart enough to do that with photoshop. Good one, lol!

Neal_ May 25, 2008 09:31 PM

Here's a pic of two from the first clutch and two that just hatched. The exposure is at a different setting so the bucket can be seen more easily.

I have seen so many on the various fora using a white bucket to photograph their small varanids that I started doing it too. Hopefully this helps to clear up your confusion about how I was shooting the photos.

In case you are still confused, Krusty, I have many, many more photos, including close-ups of every caudo so that they may be identified by their individual patterns. Thanks

jburokas May 27, 2008 06:59 PM

It's no big deal, Neal. I thought maybe you PS'd out the background for a cool effect or something. I get it. Peace out.

Neal_ May 25, 2008 09:03 PM

Hahaha, yep probably wise to keep quiet, lest I be labeled a heretic. Thanks

JME May 26, 2008 12:06 AM

That's awesome Neal! I'll never forget when I walked into my lace enclosure and heard something hissing at me from behind a tree. The last thing that you expect to see is a hatchling staring back at you.

Way to go! It's obvious that you're doing something right.

Neal_ May 27, 2008 03:31 PM

Thanks John.

I was thinking maybe I can retire from digging up eggs and just gather the hatchlings. That’d be kinda nice.

Caudo eggs don’t really take all that long to cook, but of course lacie eggs do. I must say that your experience with lacies hatching out in the adults’ enclosure was one of the coolest monitor events in recent years.

BTW, I sent you a pm.

sungazer May 26, 2008 03:57 PM

congrats once again Neal! i'm glad you got them.

I still have two good eggs incubating. But i cant remember which month she layed them in so i'm not sure how close they are to hatching hahaha. Oh well. I just hope they hatch.

cheers,
Sean

Neal_ May 28, 2008 04:37 PM

Thanks Sean. I was wondering about those storri eggs. Keep up the good work and you're bound to hatch some monitors one of these days.

ackie89 May 26, 2008 06:13 PM

Congrats Neal! You should be very proud of those little guys! Tricking the big egg-stealing ape...hahaha I'm sure you won't mind falling for that one anymore in the future... Cheers, Lance

Neal_ May 28, 2008 05:00 PM

Yup, I'm a proud papa!

I appreciate the congrats Lance. Cheers

Dobry May 27, 2008 04:18 PM

Congrats sir! Thats gotta be a great feeling.
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Neal_ May 28, 2008 05:13 PM

Thanks! I'm pretty stoked about this… but also trying to remind myself that I didn’t really do anything. I mean they were simply allowed to do what should be normal. Cheers

HappyHillbilly May 27, 2008 09:38 PM

Way to go, Neal!

That's got to be the ultimate varanid keeper's experience. A true testament to proper husbandry.

Good job!

Take care!
Mike
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Neal_ May 28, 2008 07:13 PM

Thanks Mike. Nice way to put it. Heck, now I'm gettin embarrassed by all these kind words. Cheers

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