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Nice, Mike. In fact some of my favorite of yours. Love the rich markings and the thicker more " Brazilian " looking saddles. Looks like once again, " Laddertails seem to be a passed down trait. ".......John J

I'm with John on liking the "Brazilian" type saddles.....and the tails ain't half bad either (LOL). Well done, Mike.----RON

Nice ladders mike.
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Richard Ceniceros
Tap or take a nap

very beautiful-keep the updates comming!

These really are beautiful Boas ! Keep'um coming.
. . . . . . . Lar M
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Boas By Klevitz

Very nice square tail. They have a striped tail with squares. ladder tail is something different. If it was not so far I would take some.
Siegi's recessive "square tail" pastel is a proven blood line but square tail are also 2 words that describe best this phenotype. Should it be forbiden to use them because it's also the name of a proven line ?

Jungle all over again! The words describe the appearance but there will be confusion when they are used to describe how it looks. Chain, ladder, theyre all used up! if its genetic then you get the honor of naming a new morph

>>Jungle all over again! The words describe the appearance but there will be confusion when they are used to describe how it looks. Chain, ladder, theyre all used up! if its genetic then you get the honor of naming a new morph

I know, I have the "magmas stripe" not to confuse with jungle, Kahl stripe,... Jungle is an abstactive word for new bye, a ^methaphore" while square tail is not, it is a clear description of a phenotype. I am refering to the recessive bloodline as 'German square tail".

Right. but, the word jungle in reptiles means aberrantly patterned and causes confusion without the word swedish or in the case of the squaretail, german, behind it. I am not confused about the differences now but many were and are. I'm just saying you could call it a trainwreck boa or something and it would help people understand the difference between the characteristics and how the genes of THAT mutation work. You and Kitchi both produce some beautiful animals by the way

>>Right. but, the word jungle in reptiles means aberrantly patterned and causes confusion without the word swedish or in the case of the squaretail, german, behind it. I am not confused about the differences now but many were and are. I'm just saying you could call it a trainwreck boa or something and it would help people understand the difference between the characteristics and how the genes of THAT mutation work. You and Kitchi both produce some beautiful animals by the way

We understand each other, but newbye in the boa world are allready confused with Kahl and Sharp, salmon and hypo, ... So name that could associate a word to simply describe the phenotype and an associate one for the origine could be more informative and simple than a name from Latin,Greck or a fancy one than no one exept latin specialists would understand.
Thanks.

"Ladder" or "Square", I have used these two terms interchangeably. I am aware of the recessive BCI line in Germany but thought more or less that Europe tended to use Square Tail and the USA used Ladder Tail to describe, generically, this type of tail pattern. These are in fact far different from the German BCI line. Even when that line is bred together they do not produce all square tails. These were produced by two reverse striped parents and there was not a single normal tail in the litter. They were all square/ladder or what ever they should be called except for a couple a reverse striped tails. This line as already been shown by some breeding's of earlier decedents that there is some from of dominant gene at play. This year I also bred a semi related girl to a completely unrelated bloodline that had no reverse striping or ladder tail in it. Unfortunately there was a large amount of slugs and five premies but all 5 had reverse stripe tails (not ladder or normal). Next year I plan on breeding a male with my Mega Peak Surinam line from 04'. These have red tails and not the rust/brown tails of BCI. They also have big bold saddles with peaks vs the thin saddles of the BCI line. One thing they have in common with that line is color. Some are the most extreme orange or yellow I have seen while others are normal buckskin color. More later.

Awesome looking boas. Love those tails!
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0.1 Mexican Black King
1.0 Brooksi King
0.1 Boa Constrictor 'amarali'
1.0 Japanese Bobtail
1.0 Maine Coon

WOW!!!

What a beautiful tail.

Brian

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Brian Gundy

www.for-goodness-snakes.com

that is one heck of a tail!!!!
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www.bryansboas.com

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NO ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Symetrical peaks!, lacking speckling!, Screamer tails! High contrast!, best overall color!!!!!!!!!!