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Lavs Hatching

lavenderalbino Jun 05, 2008 08:31 PM

I wish I had a baby regular albino to put alongside these little beasties!

They seem to have a higher degree of purplish pink tint compared to many other hatchling lavs we have seen

This clutch is unique in that both parents are LTC Lavender Albinos straight from Africa, and so these homozygous babies are completely unrelated to all other lines in captivity!

www.LavenderAlbino.com

Replies (8)

DEldien Jun 05, 2008 08:33 PM

Congrats, they are simply awesome!!

Dave
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ErikM Jun 05, 2008 08:45 PM

oh man that clutch is amazing.... wow!!!!!! big congrats!
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evansnakes Jun 05, 2008 08:44 PM

You know though, just like pieds and some other visuals, all the lavenders have been found in the same area, which makes sense since you would have to have two hets run into each other in the wild. So it is likely they are the same case as the pieds and an isolated population. A friend of mine bought one of the original lavenders in Africa and brought it in and was offered others from the same area. The person he bought it from sold most of the founding stock in collections here. I would really have to suspect they are related.

Congrats on the babies. I am in no way trying to diminish your clutch just want to point out how crazy the odds would be for unrelated hets to find each other in the wild.

Chance Jun 07, 2008 07:04 PM

I understand your thinking and you make a valid point. Lots of people I've talked to about w.c. mutations tend to think the same thing, about needing hets to find each other in the wild. However, I think that line of thought is slightly in error. For the mutation to exist in the first place, it had to begin somewhere. That beginning is a random mutation in an animal's genetic makeup, probably occurring during crossing over before the embryo begins developing. This would produce the mutation in question, whether it be a lavender albino, normal albino, spider, pastel, etc. These animals, if they survive, would then either go on to be collected or breed and produce similar animals. Of course, in most cases their lack of proper camo wipes them out of the gene pool before they grow much anyway. My point is just that you don't necessarily have to have hets floating around in the wild for a wild albino to turn up. That wild albino could, and at some point certainly had to, be the result of a simple random mutation regardless of the genetic makeup of the parents that produced it.
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Chance Duncan
Science Teacher, Herp Enthusiast, and Reptilian Conservation Proponent
www.rvexotics.com

kingofspades Jun 05, 2008 09:20 PM

So essentially, they are YOUR line.
Very nice.
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"What is man without the beasts?
If all the beasts were gone,
men would die from great loneliness of spirit.
For what happens to the beasts,
soon happens to men.
All things are connected."

-Chief Seattle (Duwamish Tribe)

lavenderalbino Jun 06, 2008 08:35 AM

A combination of two lines?

Speaking of lines, another interesting thing is that most of the babies seem to tend to have inherited the sire "Excalibur's" tendency towards neck striping?

www.LavenderAlbino.com

hack Jun 09, 2008 01:01 AM

I saw this and had to go into my snake room and look at my two het. Excaliburs. My male doesn't have the neck stripe, but the female I just got does.

rsherman79 Jun 05, 2008 10:38 PM

There are no other words for those than, WOW!!!
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Ryan Sherman
Scottsdale, Arizona
www.ThePaintedPython.com

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