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Does anyone cover their eggs with...

FRoberts Jun 08, 2008 01:51 PM

Does anyone cover their eggs with sphagnum with a vermiculite base?
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JP Jun 08, 2008 02:27 PM

Nothing touches my eggs except plastic grid on the bottom and humid air everywhere else...only way to go, IMO...

FRoberts Jun 08, 2008 02:35 PM

>>Nothing touches my eggs except plastic grid on the bottom and humid air everywhere else...only way to go, IMO...
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I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

JP Jun 08, 2008 02:46 PM

I suspect you'll be fine. If you have the moss touching the eggs though, then you have to be very careful its not too wet or dry.

FRoberts Jun 08, 2008 02:53 PM

>>I suspect you'll be fine. If you have the moss touching the eggs though, then you have to be very careful its not too wet or dry.

It not too wet or dry, damp is good word...I used it because I get too much condensation on box even though I wipe once a day, its damp and absorbs condensation so eggs do not come into contact with water. I am using a 10 gallon aqaurium with water as an incibator with bricks and a helix and under water heater, keeps temp within 88-89 at all times. Easily 100% humidity

Eggs are dry though!
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I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

RinL Jun 08, 2008 02:57 PM

i've used a cooler with the eggs boxes over water for years. eggs on vermiculite. no problem. all fertile eggs have hatched. the lid gets some condensation but not on the eggs.

FRoberts Jun 08, 2008 03:05 PM

>>i've used a cooler with the eggs boxes over water for years. eggs on vermiculite. no problem. all fertile eggs have hatched. the lid gets some condensation but not on the eggs.

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Frank Roberts

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ecdysis Jun 09, 2008 11:59 PM

Check out my incubator. Helix t-stat, 11" flex watt. I t cost me about 200.00 bucks and a clean fridge that didn't work anymore.......

FRoberts Jun 10, 2008 11:44 AM

>>Check out my incubator. Helix t-stat, 11" flex watt. I t cost me about 200.00 bucks and a clean fridge that didn't work anymore.......
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Frank Roberts

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

Brandon Osborne Jun 09, 2008 08:43 AM

Frank, the no substrate method can be tricky to pull off unless you have the right setup. Trust me, it is not as forgiving as using the method you are using right now. Ball eggs are tough cookies and I've seen people run them under a cold faucet to rinse them off. lol. Your setup will do just fine. Post pics when you see little noses. Good luck.

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FRoberts Jun 09, 2008 12:58 PM

>>Frank, the no substrate method can be tricky to pull off unless you have the right setup. Trust me, it is not as forgiving as using the method you are using right now. Ball eggs are tough cookies and I've seen people run them under a cold faucet to rinse them off. lol. Your setup will do just fine. Post pics when you see little noses. Good luck.
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rwoodyer Jun 11, 2008 12:07 PM

>>Frank, the no substrate method can be tricky to pull off unless you have the right setup. Trust me, it is not as forgiving as using the method you are using right now. Ball eggs are tough cookies and I've seen people run them under a cold faucet to rinse them off. lol. Your setup will do just fine. Post pics when you see little noses. Good luck.
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I agree they'll be fine, there is no such thing as too wet IMO. I spray water on mine every few days because my setup tends to dry them out. If you get things wet enough the eggs will gain weight and some of the eggs get clear windows on the exterior so you can see in and they are very firm to the touch. Haven't lost a fertile egg yet. On the other hand, I have lost a whole clutch because they got too dry.
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Emberball Jun 11, 2008 06:09 PM

I place my eggs ON the vermiculite mixture, just on the surface. I do not bury mine, but I have seen some people have success doing just that. If I was going to incorporate moss into my incubation process, I would just place it around the eggs, not on them, and have the moss be moist, not saturated.

FRoberts Jun 11, 2008 06:45 PM

I have my eggs on top of vermiculite and surrounded on all sides and covered with the sphagnum. The eggs are looking great and very hydrated.

The moss is moist and airy not wet and is absorbing the moisture on the inside of the box and the lid (it's packed to top). Eggs are def at 100 % humidity with no direct contact with water.

Within 1 day all creases vanished and eggs are smooth like a you know what...

yeah an egg!!!!!!!!!!!!

The method I am using creates a lot of condensation, so I feel the moss is the smartest way to avoid any water dripping onto the eggs from above. It looks like I will never have to add water from what I am seeing.

Too soon to tell, but the variables should remain constant. As long as my helix runs true.

>>I place my eggs ON the vermiculite mixture, just on the surface. I do not bury mine, but I have seen some people have success doing just that. If I was going to incorporate moss into my incubation process, I would just place it around the eggs, not on them, and have the moss be moist, not saturated.

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Thanks,

Frank Roberts

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

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