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I saw a pic of a bubblegum striped snow corn, such a pretty pink and white corn.
The Columbia SC show is coming soon will I find one or are they hard to get?
The price was good also, under 100.00 does that sound right?
Thank you for any replies.
Ravens mom

a bubblegum snow is just a line bred snow which has a pink tint and is striped. theres really no telling what will be at the show and what wont... it depends on what the vendors have at the time. Also the price will be negotiable. i've seen some striped snows for around $200 but once again, its up to the breeder what prices they give. BUT if i were you.... be careful what you buy.... there are bubblegum rat snakes which are different that bubblegum corns. but if you already knew that, sorry... some people dont know that and 1 person who didnt might know now
~kin
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Thank you, no I didn't know that. How do I tell if it's a rat and not a corn?
Raven's mom

i personally think rats and corns look different. the head pattern and over all pattern looks different. i believe(not 100%) that a bubblegum rat is an albino black rat, albino corn mix. and a bubblegum AKA Pink corn is just a line bred corn. in the cornsnake morph guide there is also a discussion about the name being called "bubblegum" and it confuses alot of people. i think it should be switched to just green or pink tinted snow. BUT i'm a no-body i hope i helped...
~kin
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Corns, Creamsicles, A Black Rat, Thayeri, Cal Kings, A Jungle Corn(Just A Pet), A Ball Python, A Bearded dragon, Leopard Geckos, Green Anoles, a Snapping turtle, and a white cheeked mud turtle

Over the years, I've seen plenty of misrepresented information in regards to this specific hybrid crossed animal. Many folks are very unclear as to what the genetic makeup of this animal started out as, and today, as with many other snakes that are bred, they can have all sorts of other genetic influences from other snakes that weren't part of the original animal's lineage.

The original Bubblegum Ratsnake was developed by Bill Love around 1990, then of Glades Herp Inc. He started with breeding the albino Black Ratsnake to a Yellow Ratsnake, he then later introduced the Everglades Ratsnake into the line for it's intense orange coloration. After all this was said and done, the snake that Bill coined "Bubblegum Rat" was a homozygous(visual) product of albino Black Rat, albino Yellow Rat, and albino Everglades Ratsnake cross.

Since those days, I've heard of all sorts of individual theories as to what constitutes their "bubblegums", and I'm sure from some of the conversations I've had with some, that there are now probably other ratsnakes involved in the mix as well,...not all, but certainly in some cases. Some I've talked to that have done some breeding didn't even know that the bubblegum Rat was actually an ALBINO form of these three snakes, they were calling the normal wild-type forms of this cross a "bubblegum rat". I've also heard people mention Gray Ratsnake being in this mix as well. No doubt there has to be a good number of animals in the hobby that are NOT products of this original cross of animals, yet are still being called bubblegums by individuals that are not aware of this,...but rest assured, a true "Bubblegum Ratsnake" is indeed a hybrid product of albino Black, albino Yellow, and albino Everglades ratsnakes combined.

Another part of what might contribute to their misunderstanding is there tendency to have many different looks,....they can range from very pale light pink animals with darker pink blotches, solid orange animals, orange and pink animals, to a busy complicated abstract patterned animal with vivid orange and pinks. The bottom line is these albino crosses can be extremely variable even though they share the exact same genetic lineage.

Below is a pic of what in my opinion are the very best looking examples of Bubblegum Ratsnake. This pic was from an animal rescue site up north that sold this and other animals for VERY affordable prices to good homes. Additionally, I have a good friend of mine that used to breed some very nice ones as well,...most of his were more of a slid type orange/pink coloration.

best regards, ~Doug

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Thank you for the history and the photograph - it's a very beautiful snake.
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>>Over the years, I've seen plenty of misrepresented information in regards to this specific hybrid crossed animal. Many folks are very unclear as to what the genetic makeup of this animal started out as, and today, as with many other snakes that are bred, they can have all sorts of other genetic influences from other snakes that weren't part of the original animal's lineage.
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>> The original Bubblegum Ratsnake was developed by Bill Love around 1990, then of Glades Herp Inc. He started with breeding the albino Black Ratsnake to a Yellow Ratsnake, he then later introduced the Everglades Ratsnake into the line for it's intense orange coloration. After all this was said and done, the snake that Bill coined "Bubblegum Rat" was a homozygous(visual) product of albino Black Rat, albino Yellow Rat, and albino Everglades Ratsnake cross.
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>> Since those days, I've heard of all sorts of individual theories as to what constitutes their "bubblegums", and I'm sure from some of the conversations I've had with some, that there are now probably other ratsnakes involved in the mix as well,...not all, but certainly in some cases. Some I've talked to that have done some breeding didn't even know that the bubblegum Rat was actually an ALBINO form of these three snakes, they were calling the normal wild-type forms of this cross a "bubblegum rat". I've also heard people mention Gray Ratsnake being in this mix as well. No doubt there has to be a good number of animals in the hobby that are NOT products of this original cross of animals, yet are still being called bubblegums by individuals that are not aware of this,...but rest assured, a true "Bubblegum Ratsnake" is indeed a hybrid product of albino Black, albino Yellow, and albino Everglades ratsnakes combined.
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>> Another part of what might contribute to their misunderstanding is there tendency to have many different looks,....they can range from very pale light pink animals with darker pink blotches, solid orange animals, orange and pink animals, to a busy complicated abstract patterned animal with vivid orange and pinks. The bottom line is these albino crosses can be extremely variable even though they share the exact same genetic lineage.
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>> Below is a pic of what in my opinion are the very best looking examples of Bubblegum Ratsnake. This pic was from an animal rescue site up north that sold this and other animals for VERY affordable prices to good homes. Additionally, I have a good friend of mine that used to breed some very nice ones as well,...most of his were more of a slid type orange/pink coloration.
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>> best regards, ~Doug
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Now that is a snake I would like to have.
Most of the "bubblegums" I have seen have been much paler and just looked like typical albinos to me.
That is more like it.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
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Draybars Snakes

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I agree Jimmy,.....super-nice brilliant examples like the one pictured are a sight to behold!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"