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These two are from Howie Sherman. They are almost a year old now and the male is growing fast and eats like a beast!! The female just ate her first pinky tonight as I have been working my butt off catching ground skinks and five lined skinks to feed her and to scent pinkies with.

Male (the second doesnt show the colors well but is good for showing his size)


female

Very nice! Howie has some gorgeous OBX kings -- I've seen them personally and quite the nice collection he has indeed. Hey Howie, throw up a pic of 'em as well as those sweet speckleds while you're at it tough guy.....
Keep up the good work with the scenting. Every now n then offer an unscented just to see if there's interest.

Jerry Kruse

Wow! Ralph, they are turning out special as I thought they would. Sorry for the slow starter female. Usually they take off like crazy after the first ground skink or two. Jerry, I would love to post pics but alas I am a terrible photographer and you would see fingers and blurry shots maybe showing a scale or two but nothing definitive as a snake maybe even nothing resembling a Kingdom or Phylum.Those speckled are spectacular are they not?

Why soitanly!!! Nyuk nyuk nyuk.....

I do not mind the slow start.....I have nothing else to do during the day anyway while the kids are in school since I work nights. It lets me put one more in the experience column. Can't wait to see what you produce this year...okees, OBK, holbrooki. I'll feel like a kid in a candy store when I come to pick out some okee's!

Thanks!! Can't wait to see what else of his I can buy this year! Probably some okees and maybe another OBK.

Very nice Ralph!,.......I'm really glad to hear that your killer aberrant female is getting on-track now with eating rodents. Your patience is well justified!....Howie's got some nice stuff!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Thanks Doug!! I am very partial to them myself.

Damn, that female is killer too. Good luck getting her going. I know they can be a pain sometimes......and it's usually the best looking ones that present all the problems.

Brandon
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It's funny how it is always the best looking ones that are problem feeders, as Brandon said(hey Brandon, by the way, what's shakin'?). Also, Murphy's law will dictate that it is always your prize snakes, the indispensable ones to you and your projects, that will escape or drop dead, or get egg bound, or give you slugs, or all of the above. It also translates to the field. How many times, in perfect conditions, will you flip the perfect tin and find anything? Never gonna happen. If you have a perfect tin and a worn lousy looking piece of cardboard, the snake will always be under the "other" one.I think it was Murphy's theorum until herpetoculture came around and proved it as fact.

"Mankind will rise to meet the level of his incompetence."-Murphy's corollary

Not much happening her Howie. I'm going to try to make it to D-town this year. It's been too long since my last appearance.lol. I totally agree with the Murphy's Law on snakes. My anery striped goini cross was the only one from the clutch that didn't eat on its own. I force fed him for 5 months before he decided he wanted to eat......and that was after I decided I was not going to do it any longer. Go figure. As much as I love snakes......I hate snakes. lol.
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Hey, it will be awesome to see you down there again. First beer is on me(I spill alot).

Thanks Brandon........she has been a bit of a challenge but it good to put it in the experience column. She is worth it!!

Why wasn't this snake already feeding on pinks when you got her?
Did she stop feeding on pinks after you got her, or did you purchase her knowing that she was a lizard feeder?

some eastern king locales and OBX kings are known to prefer lizards as hatchlings, that's just the way it is. even captive born hatchlings. they are not domesticated- yet! experienced hobbyists will buy a lizard feeder when working with an uncommon or high demand species and take their time (and chances on occasion)getting the animal to accept something it may not normally eat. But for example if I wanted to buy a normal corn snake- they are very common, I would expect the one I purchased to be eating pinks.

I hope that helps...
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in the light, you will find the road...

That male is SOLID and the striped/abberent is very cool!
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Todd Hughes

Thanks....all props go to Howie. Like everything else he has and produces........topnotch!! Hell, even his yellow rat snakes are screamers and I didn't think there was such a thing..LOL!!

Thanks for the kind words as always my friend. When are you coming to va beach for another visit? The Blackhead was asking about you the other day.still have that pic of the two of you?

look at those rat snakes...great setup, Howie. They must love it.
I bet I know where you get your frozen feeders, hahaha. I love to decorate with those boxes, too. BTW, that's a big blackhead.

daveb
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in the light, you will find the road...