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Never stops suprizing me....

OKReptileRescue Jun 12, 2008 05:52 PM

ok--- i have had my fair share of encounters with people that believe a lot of the myths and misconceptions about reptiles, and snakes specifically.

Today, I met a girl, that was suprized/scared?/horrified? that I had snakes....

"Don't pythons eat people? or is that boa constrictors?"

Dead DEAD serious. I told her it wasn't pysically possible, I showed her a picture of a ball python next to a 1$ bill-- I said-- how can that swollow a human? I showed her a pic of one of our bigger girls next to me-- and I said, while much larger-- still isn't happening. Her mouth cannot expand to fit over my head-- not possible!

Then she went on to say: "what about crocodiles, and alligators- don't they swollow people whole?"

And of course we touched on the poisonous/venomous issue... in the light of pythons are not poisonous... bleh

UUUGGGHHH!!!

The girl is very sheltered, and didn't even know what "Spay or Neuter" was in regards to dogs... How... do you get to 20 years old and not know what a spay/neuter is...

Holy cow--

My question is--- how do you handle people like this? I have my methods, of *kindly* educating people-- but... in her case... it just didn't seem to work.. "well my dad told me that pythons swollow people"... I'm like..ooook--- thats interesting..

Just looking to hear other methods.. NOT picking a fight and NOT looking for drama! Just wanting polite input.

Beth
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The rescue site: www.freewebs.com/okreptilerescue

Replies (15)

ginebig Jun 12, 2008 06:04 PM

Beth, you just smile, pat em on the head and tell em to have a nice day as you're walking away.

I have had run-ins with people who are that sheltered/clueless. All you can really do is explain things the best you know how and hope it takes hold some day.

Quig

mykee Jun 12, 2008 06:31 PM

Try patience. Not everyone is as smart as you are.
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BuzzardBall Jun 12, 2008 06:59 PM

I remember when I told my neighbor that I had pythons and boas! His son, who at the time, was about 25, asked me "don't they suck the blood out of rats"?????? WHAT? How do you reach the age of 25 and don't know that constrictors swallow prey items whole? Wild Kingdom, PBS, Animal Planet, ahhhhh friggin' biology class? I found that hard to believe!

teddy311 Jun 12, 2008 07:43 PM

so pythons dont swallow people whole?

panhead Jun 12, 2008 08:02 PM

Just remember there are people that have never seen a live cow or chicken. Imagine what they "THINK THEY KNOW" about reptiles. I deal with this everyday in my pet store. Those that will listen I try and explain/correct without being judgemental. Those that know everything, I don't even argue. I just say "it's your opinion" or "if you say so, but I don't agree" and walk away. That's about all you can do. Don't even get me started on the people that dropped their money on an animal from one of the big chain stores or at another pet store and then come into my shop and say "they told me to come here for help because you guy's know what your talking about".
Bruce Delles c/o Twin Cities Reptiles
CELEBRATING OUR 30TH YEAR IN THE RETAIL REPTILE BUSINESS

OKReptileRescue Jun 12, 2008 09:07 PM

yha-- we were in Indiana on vacation one year, and someone asked me if I lived in a Tipee.....
Seriously people...

I have LOADS of people call me after buying animals from the pet store- "it won't eat" -- I go look and the things are barely a month old- some weigh in at 50 grams... and petstores are SELLING them to KIDS!

I just... "is it pythons that swollow people... or boa constrictors..." how in the hey did you come up with that sentence?

Then she argued with me in regards to the boa v.s. python movies--- LIKE THE MOVIE WAS REAL. "I bet when they stand up tall like that they could kill you" ... :/ WHAT?!

geez... I think i'm just having one of those days... I'm a big animal person, and when she asked what the Spay/Neuter thing was on my car... she truely didn't know what a spay was- AND she thought that the term "breeding dogs" meant that someone holds the female, and someone else makes the male 'do' her. HOLY CRAP.

I just formed an opinion about her- right from the start-- not that she was stupid-- just that she was obviously sheltered and hadn't learned much about the 'real' world yet... then a friend of mine asked how the snakes were- and it just went down hill from there...

I'll survive-- but this is by far one of the 'worst' situation's i've encountered in a long time.

beth
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The rescue site: www.freewebs.com/okreptilerescue

JenH Jun 12, 2008 11:13 PM

She is a moron, don't worry about her. Sounds like she has an IQ of 10.

If you can't take enough notice of the world around you to know basic biology, you are not worth the effort....

jespythonz Jun 13, 2008 10:09 AM

n/p

Brandon Osborne Jun 12, 2008 11:19 PM

Beth, some people are just stupid........ok, most people. If you have never seen the movie Idiocracy, you should rent it. It will be our country in the near future.

Brandon Osborne
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PHLdyPayne Jun 13, 2008 12:41 PM

IQ and education are two separate things though having lots of both definitely works...but if one is low, it will affect the other to some extent. But people with low IQ can still learn things. The local reptile association I am part of in my area, there is a mentally handicapped lady who is pretty knowledgeable about reptiles though sometimes it takes her a few minutes to 'absorb' new information.

Anyway, spay and neuter may be terms she never heard of before, but the concept of 'fixing' a cat or dog so it can't have babies, may not be new to her. I still can't remember which one is for females and which is for male cats or dogs.

it is possible for a large species of python to swallow a human...though definitely not a ball python.

In the situation you described I would have explained that most pythons are not able to swallow a full grown human though the larger species could swallow a small human, either a child or very short human but they are much more likely to kill a human via constriction than actually ate them. Again you can point out it is very rare.

You can always use a 4' rope and tell her to wrap it around your body and try and 'squeeze' you with it. Unless you are very skinny, probably won't be very easy. But if she has 25' of rope she certainly can wrap it around your torso many times and have a much better chance of squeezing you all over.

As for her father who told her pythons swallow people you can say her father is probably right on many things but again explain very few pythons can swallow people, so he's only correct with maybe two or three species of pythons. Not the other hundred or so species that make up that class of snake. Just as there are many kinds of cats, both big and small but all are generally called cats..with great cats to describe the big wild cats like lions and tigers. Same is true with pythons and boas. There big and small python and boas. A house cat isn't going to be a danger to people, even if they can scratch and bite, they are not likely to eat you. A lion however, most certainly is capable of killing and eating a human.

Sometimes comparing to animals they do understand, works.

Oh and when you say this lady is 'sheltered' does that mean home schooled and has no internet or TV? Then again she watched at least one movie....

Definitely should explain that the movie Python vs Boa is a movie, the snakes are props, and animechtronics or whatever the robotic special effects are called. Besides, in that movie, the snakes in questions were genetically engineered to be bigger than was natural for those snakes to get...and thus don't exist naturally. Besides, boas and pythons couldn't interbreed anyway. Be like breeding a human to a chimpanzee. Or a bird to a mammal when you consider one is an egg layer, the other a live bearer.

As for the dog breeding methods..perhaps she saw a video of an assisted breeding...where the breeders do help the dogs get things in the right place. There are such vids on youtube. Maybe that is why she thought dog breeding meant humans had to make sure things get done.
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PHLdyPayne

kingofspades Jun 13, 2008 12:28 AM

The trick is to re-educate them, inform them that they were taught wrong AND try not to make them feel like an idiot.
I've actually talked people into LIKING snakes just by educating them.
That's another fun part of the hobby.
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"What is man without the beasts?
If all the beasts were gone,
men would die from great loneliness of spirit.
For what happens to the beasts,
soon happens to men.
All things are connected."

-Chief Seattle (Duwamish Tribe)

jyohe Jun 13, 2008 10:31 AM

I just gave up and usually agree with people.....they are too dumb to teach correctly usually...it's too late

yep

black rats breed with rattlers and copperheads

pythons are boas and vice versa...and they can eat people....

snakes can jump

snakes make noises (other than hiss and blow)...(wish they spoke English)

black rats can be 12 feet long......LOL

and anacondas are like 40 foot always....

all snakes are poisonous.....( ? you eat them you die???)

etc etc etc

(I do educate some people......J/K with post)
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PHLdyPayne Jun 13, 2008 12:44 PM

Snakes can't jump, they 'spring'...Sproing sproing sproing...

why else do they coil up?

(sorry, couldn't resist...me bad...and of course, not being serious at all)
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PHLdyPayne

rwoodyer Jun 13, 2008 12:44 PM

>>ok--- i have had my fair share of encounters with people that believe a lot of the myths and misconceptions about reptiles, and snakes specifically.
>>
>>Today, I met a girl, that was suprized/scared?/horrified? that I had snakes....
>>
>>"Don't pythons eat people? or is that boa constrictors?"
>>
>>Dead DEAD serious. I told her it wasn't pysically possible, I showed her a picture of a ball python next to a 1$ bill-- I said-- how can that swollow a human? I showed her a pic of one of our bigger girls next to me-- and I said, while much larger-- still isn't happening. Her mouth cannot expand to fit over my head-- not possible!
>>
>>Then she went on to say: "what about crocodiles, and alligators- don't they swollow people whole?"
>>
>>And of course we touched on the poisonous/venomous issue... in the light of pythons are not poisonous... bleh
>>
>>UUUGGGHHH!!!
>>
>>The girl is very sheltered, and didn't even know what "Spay or Neuter" was in regards to dogs... How... do you get to 20 years old and not know what a spay/neuter is...
>>
>>Holy cow--
>>
>>My question is--- how do you handle people like this? I have my methods, of *kindly* educating people-- but... in her case... it just didn't seem to work.. "well my dad told me that pythons swollow people"... I'm like..ooook--- thats interesting..
>>
>>Just looking to hear other methods.. NOT picking a fight and NOT looking for drama! Just wanting polite input.
>>
>>Beth
>>-----
>>The rescue site: www.freewebs.com/okreptilerescue

What I usually do is smack them in the face, scream "how dare you!!?!" and storm off like they insulted my dead granmother. Although it does nothing to make them smarter, at least it makes me feel better.
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teddy311 Jun 13, 2008 03:57 PM

so you are saying that anacondas arent 40 foot long? my ball python could eat a person, hes like 400 grams hes a monster. aaahahahahahahahaha freaking people

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