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Well this is a new one for me

rwoodyer Jun 13, 2008 12:38 PM

I've never been really convinced about the 2 father 1 mother mixed clutches until now.

I bred a pastel to a normal female once back in late February. I followed that by breeding her with a cinny for the next 2 months. She ovulated right after being coupled with the cinny. She laid just 5 eggs (which I thought was strange considering 2 years ago she produced 8 at a similar weight). Well, they just hatched and I am 100% sure I didn't mix any eggs up because this was my first clutch laid this year by about a week. I was very surprised to find out of 5 eggs, 2 pastel faces looking up at me next to 3 cinny faces...no normals...hmmm

I thought I was looking at the wrong clutch and for about 10 minutes I was trying to figure out what the hell was going on. I went so far as to look at the photos of my female normal on the eggs to make sure they were the same eggs. So I guess I am sold on the 2 fathers to one female thing now, although it was unintentional this time.
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Replies (9)

phoerner Jun 13, 2008 12:52 PM

Congrates,
here is one this year with 3 males pastel, pinstripe and spider

rwoodyer Jun 13, 2008 12:55 PM

>>Congrates,
>>here is one this year with 3 males pastel, pinstripe and spider

Sweet! was the female a normal?
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phoerner Jun 13, 2008 02:05 PM

Yes a normal female.

mikebell Jun 13, 2008 01:27 PM

It isn't a new idea and many have posted results. I don't see why you would have doubted that it would happen. I wouldn't have expected the great odds that you got, but the multiple sires is common.

teddy311 Jun 13, 2008 03:50 PM

see alot of people have told me that it doesnt matter what you breed with a normal female the babies will all just be hets for whatever, but all these people have these amazing results, its a damn shame i didnt breed mine

mikebell Jun 13, 2008 04:44 PM

Recessive traits make hets. The trats he mentioned are co-dom or dominate. You get results the first time around.

rwoodyer Jun 15, 2008 09:46 PM

>>It isn't a new idea and many have posted results. I don't see why you would have doubted that it would happen. I wouldn't have expected the great odds that you got, but the multiple sires is common.

I guess I doubted it because it never happened to me in 5 years of breeding balls. I don't usually mix and match breeders...this was actually just a misplaced snake.

The final count is

1.1 pastel
0.3 cinnamon

Not bad coming from a normal female...I wish I had half those odds on some real projects.
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Shawn_T Jun 13, 2008 08:54 PM

This year I breed a Lemon Pastel female to a Cinnamon Pastel, Pinstripe, and a Fire het Black Eyed Lucy. I was hopeing for a double co-dom of any combonation. I got a total of 6 eggs, 3 fathers, and 4 morphs. The breakdown was...

0.1 pewter
1.1 cinnamon pastel
1.0 pinstripe
1.0 Fire
1.0 Normal

Shawn Turnage

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PhillyBoyInTN Jun 13, 2008 10:51 PM

That's awesome dude!! Congrats!!!
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1.0 Columbian RTB
1.0 Orange Ghost BP
1.0.3 Mojave BP
4.2 Pastel BP
1.0 100% Het Pied BP
1.1 100% Het Caramel BP
1.0 100% Het Albino BP
0.1 100% Het Orange Ghost BP
0.1 Mudd Slide BP (50% het alb)
0.9.1 Normal BP - (2 - 66% het alb, 1 - 50% het pied)
0.0.6 Eggs in the incubator

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