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End of an era

ginter Jun 14, 2008 05:29 PM

The original founder for the STILLWATER Hypo line has dropped another clutch of infertile eggs, this is the 2nd year of duds. She is somewhat old but should not bo too old. I will retire her at this point and not put her through the rigors of reproduction again. I think that I got her and the male in 1995. (No Billy, I did not speed feed, or push her to double clutch...LOL) She just wore out I guess.

If you have a Stillwater hypo in your collection you have this old girl to thank!

She seems otherwise healthy so It is "out to pasture" for her. She will enter the "classroom education" phase of her life, consisting of a rat a week and lots of schoolkids!............ah, for the record she won't be fed school kids.....LOL

Replies (9)

daveb Jun 14, 2008 06:25 PM

back in the early 90's the final two snakes I would choose from (for the first reptile pet since grade school)were a bull and a cal king. I chose the cali. Though I loved him for 14 years, I might have got to where I am a little faster if I chose the bull...
I'm currently making room for a lot of things - jani, deppei, mugitus, and for the first time in a long time, I'm in the market for some bulls. I'd like to get some stillwaters. They are just wonderful looking animals. I may be a few years behind the herd, but I got here anyway. So thank you old lady for all that you have offered to herpetoculture.

BTW John- any chance you'll be in Daytona? We'll have to cross paths one of these days!

daveb

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Jeremy Pierce Jun 14, 2008 06:34 PM

"So thank you old lady for all that you have offered to herpetoculture"

I second those sentiments!

Jeremy
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DISCERN Jun 15, 2008 12:51 AM

John,

Wow..what a trip!! What a snake!!!! She is a trooper and has made such an impression on all bullsnake lovers who are fortunate to have a Stillwater hypo in their collection.
I do hope you keep her as a nice pet, and she still may have many years ahead of her as well.
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brhaco Jun 15, 2008 09:04 AM

I often think of her when working with my own bull collection-more than half of which are either Stillwater or at least carriers of the gene. What a service she has done for the hobby as founder of such a stunning line!

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okeeteekid Jun 15, 2008 12:49 PM

thank you, from your great great great grand kids, her legacy will live on.
greg

sjohn Jun 15, 2008 06:09 PM

Sad to see a bit of herpetoculture history end but it was a good run. It's interesting to note that I have had several pits stop breeding at a simlar age even though they lived on for many more years. This '89 Ocala locale S. Pine was a great breeder for many years until she produced her last fertile eggs in 2004 then died in 2006. I also have an '89 N. Pine that stopped producing fertile eggs about the same time but still is a healthy viable snake that is a hit among my students. However, I have had corn snakes continue to produce up to their final days at ages close to 20 years.

One of the old girls first offspring.

Scott John Reptiles

LibertyReptiles Jun 16, 2008 01:20 AM

Thanks old girl.

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amazonreptile Jun 16, 2008 01:54 PM

I won't argue with your decision to retire an older female. You certainly have her best interest in mind.

May I point out something I have learned over the last 25 years? If the female is making eggs, she is capable of reproducing. It is her job to make eggs and the males to make them fertile. Thus, if I am getting infertile eggs I am looking at the male for the answer.
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ginter Jun 16, 2008 10:53 PM

Yeah, I would have gone that way to, however he proved out on another female both years. Seems odd and I would not expect it but two years of slugs wins her a place in the old folks home.

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