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With Womas that is....60 days post deposition and voila baby Womas. To all of you that were curious; I kept her nest box at 70-90% AH, temps averaged around 83 degrees with occassional spikes up to high 80's and down to high 70's. I went cooler this time than the last couple of clutches and they still hatched out 5 days earlier, go figure.

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>>With Womas that is....60 days post deposition and voila baby Womas. To all of you that were curious; I kept her nest box at 70-90% AH, temps averaged around 83 degrees with occassional spikes up to high 80's and down to high 70's. I went cooler this time than the last couple of clutches and they still hatched out 5 days earlier, go figure.
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>>>>With Womas that is....60 days post deposition and voila baby Womas. To all of you that were curious; I kept her nest box at 70-90% AH, temps averaged around 83 degrees with occassional spikes up to high 80's and down to high 70's. I went cooler this time than the last couple of clutches and they still hatched out 5 days earlier, go figure.
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I would love to hear more about this. I am hoping my WOmas will go next year. Todd
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I seriously considered maternal incubation, but was worried about another two months sans food having long-term repercussions on reproductive ability...

How's mom handling that humidity? About a week post-lay I discovered some small swellings on my female that appear to have been some vesicular dermatitis ("blister disease". She shed and appears to be clearing it up (whitened and dried, no swelling, eating well), but I'm at a loss as to what precipitated this. I've kept the cage quite clean and other than her nesting box, which she only spent limited time in, humidity stays fairly low otherwise.

Great job with this clutch, I have been using maternal exclusively for many years and definitely think it is the way to go. I assume the temps you listed were air temps? Did you happen to get any intra-coil temp readings? Thanks,

Kelly

Intra coil temps varied from high 70's to mid 80's, mom did fine with humidity and although alittle thin, she did not become emaciated. I attribute this to breeding every other year and making sure I give them extra food for a few months prior to breeding trials. She does not get obese, but you can tell she is carrying good weight which is right where I want her to be.

After doing this, I will probably refrain from AI from now on with these guys, it was far easier than I thought it would be and the results are proving to be as good or better than AI.
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Lateralis
"I would rather be precisely wrong than approximately right"
Marion "Doc" Ford

Congratulations:

Would you please tell us of your setup? I would like to know how you maintained humidity and temperature. Thanks.

Sounds great...I thought seriously about trying maternal incubation; maybe next time I'll give it a go. I'd be interested to know how clutch sizes vary over the long run, though (noticed anything, kelly?).

I'd also be interested to see if there are any positive effects on the young, though I'm not sure how one would gauge that. Many animals that are born precocious benefit neurologically (leading to better stress-adaptation behaviours) from mild temperature stress at particular periods of development, and I've often wondered if the strict temperature regimine in an incubator doesn't have some drawbacks in this regard. Of course, womas are so bleeding hardy to begin with I'm not sure what difference it might make anyway.

Great, Brett!!! What kind of substrate did you use, and how did you maintain the RH? You live in a dry region, correct?
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