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hi i have a few questions.
I am interested in tree frogs.
What wouldu say if i got a 20 gallon tall tank i was interested in whites tree frogs. how much do these cost and or green treefrogs. any one got infoon eitherof these thanks

Whites tree frogs are always a good beginer frog. THey are more hardy than the green trees. And can be handled alot more than most other frogs. IN a 20H i would recommend no more than 2 whites. I only have 3 in my 45 gal. IF you get whites i would not recommend that you house any other frogs with tehm due to predation. I am pretty sure there is a caresheet on the caresheet page that you can look at.

thanks wellim going to the reptile show inphiladelphia hopefully the people there that have themfor sale can give metwo females i dont want babaies and two males will fight. basically what im going to do is put astro turf on thebottom andget fake plants and they have a branch at petsmart its likeu can bend it to what u want it to looklike. any ways put a shallow water dishabout 2 inches deep down on the bottom and a few hipe places??? hows this sound

I don't think males will fight, but only put one adult in a 20H. They are large frogs! But, like frogger said, they are supposedly more hardy than GTFs (not to mention most GTFs are more easily frightened and wild caught).

Wait around and see what people write because there are some very experienced frog people lurking about and they'll really be able to tell you how to do everything perfect with your frogs.

Good luck and welcome to froggies, btw.
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Got hips like Cinderella / Must be having a good shame / Talking sweet about nothing / Cookie I think you're Tame

....the truth is, their not. Also, id say only 1 frog in a 20g. 2 is pushing it, and they would be cramped unless their small.

Don't act like you know everything. Compared to most other frogs, Whites really are much more handleable. They are not super jumpy so they don't try to get away. They are normally just pleased as punch to sit on your hand and look fat. That's what they do best. If you make sure to wash your hands before you touch them (and after), and you don't hold them for super long amounts of time, I see no reason why they can not be handled. It won't kill them. It won't harm them. I handle mine, I also handfeed mine. Is that wrong too?

Well, according to most of the people who do know what they're talking about it will harm them. And that's what Lukey is trying to get at...
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Got hips like Cinderella / Must be having a good shame / Talking sweet about nothing / Cookie I think you're Tame

I started out with 2 white's tree frogs. I have had them for about 3 years. I think they are very easy to take care of, if you are willing to mist them daily. I mist mine at least 3 times a day (with declorinated water) because their humidity needs to be around 80%(no lower than 50%, but not soaking wet all the time). The day time temp. should be between 80-86 with a nighttime temp. of 75(no lower than 70). For the substrate in my terrarium I use a layer of bark(so the tank doesn't hold water from all the misting) on the bottom, then a layer of dirt(because my frogs would eat the bark when they caught their food), then moss in different places (not covering the floor, just in spots to help keep the humidity up). White's are very good climbers so you will need to provide several branches and plants for climbing. Make sure any frogs water bowl is changed daily. Because frogs drink by absorbing the water though their skin. If they do not have clean water every day that can lead to liver problems that can not be reversed and will ultimately kill the frog. So keep that in mind. These frogs love to eat so make sure that you don't over feed them. Juvenile frogs can be fed daily and adult frogs can be fed 3 times a week. I feed mine crickets and an occacional wax worm, these are very fatty (I don't like mealworms, because if the animal does not bite the mealworms head when they eat it the mealworm can eat the animal from the inside out). Keep your crickets healthy. The healthier you keep your crickets the healthier you frogs will be. This may sound like a lot of work, but it will turn into a daily habit. Frogs are a really fun pet. I think they have their own personality. If you want a frog that will "talk" at night then you want a boy. Sexing most frogs is hard until they reach maturity. But it can be done. Hope this helps.

True Whites are very easy to keep.

You don't necessarily have to mist them every day or 3 times a day, it depends on your situation. I never mist mine and they are fine because my humidity sits at the right spot.

Their humidity should not be at 80%, it should be about 50%.
80% is too humid for these frogs.
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the humidity should NOT be 80%, this is way to high. if the frog has a scratch on its body a fungal infection could attack it straight away due to to much humidty. as wtfgirl said, the humidity SHOULD be 50%. and bark as a first level substrate is not good, if the frog digest some bark it can result into intestinal impaction. and all frogs should not be handled, unless need be. check my site for all the care on Whites tree frogs.

luke z
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wtfgirl is correct that 80% humidity is too high for the frogs, but depending on the situation in your house, you may have to mist them more. There is no possible way for my frogs tank to stay at 50% all day long in my house. After i mist them, it takes about 10-15 minutes for it to drop back down to 50-60% humidity and it slowly falls over a few hours. Also, lukeybaby is correct that bark as a substrate is not good. However, when i lay the bark down, i put dirt on top of it packed down so that the frogs cannot get access to the bark, therefor, they are not at risk of impaction. Your frogs CAN be handled as long as you keep your hands moist. If you handle your frogs with dry hands you risk tearing their skin. You can also house two males together without them fighting, so dont worry about that. A male and a female together is a good combination as well, as they are extremely hard to breed unless you regulate seasons and put them through a rain chamber. The females get larger than the males so you can choose which size frog you want. Two in a 20 gallon is fine, but the bigger the better.

you do not "need" a rain chamber to breed WTF's, all you have to do is cycle them and have a large water area.

frogs absorb substances through there skin, and naturally humans excrete oils from our hands. when holding frogs the oil from humans hands are absorbed by the frog, and the frog gets harmed. the frogs skin does not rip/or tear.

luke z
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I did not say you "need" a rain chamber to breed white's tree frogs. What I was saying is it helps to stimulate the natural breeding season. Yes a large water area is fine too. I agree frogs to absorb subtances through their skin. That is why I said they drink by absorbing water. So yes they can absorb other substances, including oils from humans hands. That is why I said to keep your hands moist, and it is always best to wash your hands before and after holding any animal!! But it is true that if your hands are dry and the frog does not stay moist then that will cause the frog to get sticky and you CAN rip/tear their skin. I have been around frogs my whole life and I have seen it happen.