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Mojave X Spider = ???
Super Pastel X Spider = ???

mojave to spider......normals spiders mojaves and possibly the mojave spider!

Super pastel to spider....pastels normals bumble bees and spiders....now im no expert so if im wrong sorry just kick me in the rear!

Paul

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>>mojave to spider......normals spiders mojaves and possibly the mojave spider!
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>>Super pastel to spider....pastels normals bumble bees and spiders....now im no expert so if im wrong sorry just kick me in the rear!

With Super Pastel to Spider you will get Bumble Bee's and Pastels only as the Super Pastel is a Dominant Gene and all babies produced to a "normal" breeding will be pastel.
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Brandon Nixon

I agree with your results (pastels and bumblebees) but disagree with your terminology. Pastel is a co-dominant mutation. The mutation type doesn't change when you are looking at a super pastel vs. a pastel. It's the genotype that changes. Because the super pastel is homozygous pastel it gives all of its offspring the pastel mutation.

Some day we may confirm a dominant mutation type, for example if it turns out that a homozygous spider is viable and it looks and acts just like the heterozygous spiders (although we don’t call them hets most or all of the spiders so far are heterozygous for the spider mutation). If a homozygous spider which looked and acted like any other spider where proven by producing a large number of 100% spider eggs with normals then we would know that the spider mutation is a dominant mutation type regardless of if you where looking at the heterozygous spiders that produce 50% chance spider eggs with a normal or the proven homozygous spider.

What I meant by Dominant wasn't that Pastel is a Dominant Gene but that the super pastel it self is Dominant because the least that animal can produce is all pastels thus it acts as a dominant animal.
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Brandon Nixon

Anyone have pics of a mojave spider cross?? Please post them.
Jbugg

NERD has it in their gallery

http://www.newenglandreptile.com/nerd/index.php/ball-pythons/spider-mojave.html
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Kevin Earley
Gila Monsters - Beaded Lizards - Ball Pythons

I believe that "homozygous" is the correct word and that it's unfortunate that some websites and perhaps even books use "dominant" where they should use homozygous because it is confusing with the dominant mutation type we may see some

The salmon mutant gene in boa constrictors is a dominant mutant, though the appearance is variable.

The striped mutant in California king snakes seems to be another dominant mutant gene. It is very variable in expression.

Herp genetics is very young. No doubt more dominant mutants will turn up in the future, just as they have in mammals, birds, and other species.

Paul Hollander

The genetic aspect is a head spinner for most folks....I put myself in that category as well

Not just with this example, but everyday it gets more intricate and just when you think you go it down - zing!

Lol - np!