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This little clutch of five eggs put me over the 10,000 mark.Now this doesn't count slugs and it doesn't mean I hatched 10,000
This is 10,000 good looking eggs laid.

I know its a bit more cause I didn't keep any records first few years.

86) 63
87) 52
88) 111
89) 187
90) 92
91) 384
92) 651
93) 248
94) 113
95) 711
96) 412
97) 498
98) 892
99) 1211
00) 1076
01) 813
02) 512
03) 361
04) 295
05) 281
06) 371
07) 412
08) 355 so far
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10,001

L8r
Shannon

Wow that is amazing man!

That is awesome Shannon!!!!!

Good luck with your projects this year.

Tom

>>This little clutch of five eggs put me over the 10,000 mark.Now this doesn't count slugs and it doesn't mean I hatched 10,000
>>This is 10,000 good looking eggs laid.
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>>I know its a bit more cause I didn't keep any records first few years.
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>>86) 63
>>87) 52
>>88) 111
>>89) 187
>>90) 92
>>91) 384
>>92) 651
>>93) 248
>>94) 113
>>95) 711
>>96) 412
>>97) 498
>>98) 892
>>99) 1211
>>00) 1076
>>01) 813
>>02) 512
>>03) 361
>>04) 295
>>05) 281
>>06) 371
>>07) 412
>>08) 355 so far
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>>10,001
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>>L8r
>>Shannon
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Thomas Sierra

Good to see you know what you are doing,lol. A little off subject, what do you think is the outcome of so many babies? Its kind of strange, because if everyone were as successful as you, if 1/10 of the hatchlings went to breeders I think everyone in the country would own a snake now! So in a different way, what do you think is the percentage of babies that live to reproduce??My guess would be about 10%.

well, Its hard to say Jeff but I just went over all my records and t looks like I have hatched just over 8,000 in all those years so just over 80% hatch.Now, its really hard to say how many of them make it to breeding size etc..
Back in the days I only wholesaled and sold to pet stores so I doubt many ever got bred.
I also did allot of corns and pueblans,siniloans etc..And they are much esier to get up to size and to get to breed.
Its just always been a hobby for me and I have never depended on it for my sole source of income.I would never make it unless I really changed allot of the things I due.I just can't make money with allot of the snakes I produce but its what I like to work with.

L8r

to make a "living" in this business. Its the exact same as Marine Biology...its great when you dont have to make big $$, but sooner or later you have to realize that you have to compete against all these people who just love to do it as a hobby. If a "hobbyist" produces 8K snakes and cant make it a job.... Oh, and TOUCHE my friend on that other forum post,lol. I thought you were going to make a joke that my type of women were MONSTERS!

Shannon ,that is awesome ,that is a ton of snakes ,this hobby has come along way ,In 1965 I bred and hatched my first corn snakes ,16 eggs and 16 hatched ,I had no contact with other snake people ,no computer ,no shipping ,I was even breeding my own mice ,I released most of the hatchlings but sold some to a pet store for $.50 each,alot of changes in 43 years

great job Shannon

Terry M

wow, I love to hear those stories.My first clutch ever was a coachwip.I was 10 years old and caught her gravid of coarse.All 11 eggs hatched on damp paper towles and a gallon jar.All I had was about 3 old books at the library to go by.It was 1981 and I was 10.LOL....
My first breeding to hatch was actually some lyre snake (trimorphodon).12 eggs all hatched and I was 15 at the time.My parents always said I would out grow it.LOL.....

L8r Shannon

"My parents always said I would out grow it"
lol
That should be in your signature
congrats man 10,000 is fantastic
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..Doug
~ aka dougsnake

...congratulations!

Tim

that is one hug mlestone shannon!
heres to another 10,001
adam jeffery
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" a.k.a. farfrumugen "
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.

Congrats, Shannon. That is amazing. Holy crap 99 and 2000 were crazy years for you. Unbelievable.

Dave
DNS Reptiles

Hi Shannon,
Bruce Atherton here! Congrats on 10,000+ eggs!
I notice you use vermiculite for your hatching medium,
which I used for years. Lately, last two years I cannot find
anymore. I have tried Armstrong, Home Depot, etc.

Where do you get yours? I have been using Pearlite, but I don't
like it...too abrasive.

Comments please, THX
Bruce

Hi Bruce, I use vermecultie and hatch-rite also.I still buy the vermeculite here in Bishop at my locale nursery.Its the only place I have ever bought it.

Good luck and I will see you in Anaheim.

L8r Shannon

Shannon ,how do you like hatchrite ? what is it made up of ?

Terry M

I like it so far.I am not even sure what it is but it works good.I have only had to ad water a couple times the 2 years I have used it.
Shannon

I tried HatchRite last season with a few clutches.

Like shannon, I had to add water, which is not such a big deal. But, I really didn't see much of a difference between HatchRite and my usual vermiculite/perilite mix in terms of hatch rates or overall egg quality during incubation..

I am open to opinions on this, but I am convinced that HatchRite is worth the cost??

~ Mike Russo

I have never used hatchrite, how much does it cost? I usually just do a vermiculite to perlite mix of 2-1 and I have not seen any reason to change. I am open to new ideas though and if it is that much cheaper then wht the heck. I could see it being more of a problem to find though.



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don't marry the cow when the milk is free when the milk drys up it's time for a new cow

Congrats. You are half way to being the Wilt Chamberlain of snake breeders!
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Joe

Those #'s are just INSANE Shannon!!!

Keep up the good work!

~ Mike Russo

a round of Hennessey for eveyone here -- congrats brother. *clink*

Jerry Kruse

your list...those two on the side need some moisture!!!

LMAO!

Congrats Shannon...I'd love to have a coachwhip clutch or a Lyre snake clutch.

Speaking of the Lyre snake...did one ever bite you? If so, did it affect you in any way? I always liked that snake...but never found one alive (in Arizona).

My first clutch was Cal. Kings...in 1996-97...a huge clutch too...18-19 eggs...all hatched.

-Rusty

Never been bit by a lyre.Just been bit one time by a mitchelli (stephensi) and that was enough for me.
L8r

Sorry to hear that!

Any long term damage?

-Rusty

Well, I am blind in one eye and walk with a limp and drool all over myself but other than that I am good to go.LOL..
No, there was no tissue damage or anything.I was lucky, 3 days in I.C.U. and 40k later and I was ready to go.

L8r

>>Speaking of the Lyre snake...did one ever bite you? If so, did it affect you in any way? I always liked that snake...but never found one alive (in Arizona).
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I have, by a 3ft nice robust male Lyre, one I raised up. Made me bleed, but he hit and let go, didn't chew. Nothing happened to me afterwards.

Lyre's aren't real trustworthy snakes. They are always cautious. I recommend using a snake hook in general. It's not that they strike when you pick them up, it is more when you are holding them and make a sudden movement, or someone else does so near you.

I raised a female as well. She would sit near the cage door and wait for food, take it right out of the tongs like I was feeding a big boa or something. All of mine were excellent feeders on thawed rodents, and they would feed morning, noon or night - they didn't care. The babies sometimes needed some lizard scenting for a few meals, but then never looked back.

Babies are escape artists. They will get through gaps that will stop a baby milksnake, even though their (the lyre's) heads seem bigger. I understand how they can exist in rock crevices. Those eyes are so cool.
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Mark

Yep, I am very surprised they aren't more popular snakes.They are very cool like hognose.

L8r

Very cool that you kept track all these years. I used to and got lazy. Does working for a former large breeder count? I think I hatched around 3800 that first year.....of EVERYTHING. I know I have my old records around somewhere. That's cool. Congrats.

Brandon Osborne
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www.brandonosbornereptiles.com

What was snake number 6246? JUST KIDDING MAN! Congrats!
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honesty is my only policy

It was a campbelli.LOL..... in (99) I hatched over 700 pueblans.I sold everyone to one person out of the egg for $25.00
It was great and I did it for 3 years then he lost the contract with pet-co or pet smart or whatever he had going.

L8r

Damn Shannon, that is awesome. Congratulations.

Vinny
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“There is a grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that whilst this planet has gone on cycling according to the fixed laws of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved.” -C. Darwin, 1859

Natural Selection Reptiles

congrats brother. That is truly a milestone but the real milestone is the fact that you still managed to entertain and take care of five girls as well.
How the hell did you find the time to do other things in 1999 through 2000? Geez.....
Again, great job man!!
Nathan

Thanks Nate, I also had my own Restaurant back then.It was tuff but I found the time.
L8r

Just insane numbers... humbling -- LOL! Well lookin' forward to seeing that number expand further... good luck in the years to come.

Chris

That's an amazing accomplishment Shannon. Congrats!
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Jon Wedow
Sharp Dressed Snakes