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BCI or BCC

turtlesstartedit Jun 28, 2008 02:22 PM

Its a male, about a year old, and was a rescue. I have tried to key it various times, but it keeps coming up as BCC. However, I am skeptical anyone would have given a litter of BCC to a rescue. So common sense would dictate BCI, but I am still undecided.

Thanks in advance,

Zach

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boaphile Jun 28, 2008 03:54 PM

Most will think that animal is BCI. They make that decision uterly apart from the fact that all Colombian Boa "key out" to be BCC. Still people want Non-Amazon Basin Colombians to be BCI. The reason? I have no idea, since the original descriptions are the only legit authority. Anything else is just like me today; Hot Air.

Colombian Boas are BCC not BCI

They are certainly not the same as other BCC any more than other "True Red Tails" are the same. Peruvian Red Tails, Brazilian Red Tails, (Northern and Southern versions which are both distinct by the way), Venezuelan Red Tails and Suriname Red Tails are all distinct and not the same as each other either. They are all distinct and different from each other. Just like Colombian Boas. But still key out to be BCC every time it's tried.

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turtlesstartedit Jun 29, 2008 12:49 PM

Thanks for the explanation that not only identifies the snake but allows me to understand my somewhat confusing results. Essentially you are saying that most hobbyists would call it BCI when it is really BCC... just not what hobbyists mean by BCC (they generally use BCC to refer to the Amazons).
So, am I correct in assuming that the Colombians are going to be somewhat smaller than their Amazon counterparts? My male should top out at 6ft most likely and 8ft max?

LarM Jun 28, 2008 04:22 PM

That's a beautiful colorful Colombian type Boa,many would say "Pastel Colombian Boa".
Listen to Jeff he knows of what he speaks. For some reason most Boa hobbyists refuse to believe that Colombian Boas scale count BCC. Although I believe few if any have actually counted scales to support a claim.
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madisonrecords Jun 29, 2008 02:35 PM

I am a Locale man to the hilt, but not near as dellusional
as some of my counterparts.
This type of discussion can become very bad, very quick and
I have gotten my share of grief from this subject and others
pertaining to Locality.
In my mind, all boas East of the Andes are B.C.C. The two
major variances in lets say " looks in color and pattern ect, "
are " Boas from the Guyana Shield and Highlands and those from the lowland Basin areas. "
The Guyana Shield, is huge and covers most of " Guyana, Suriname, French Guiana, parts of Venezuela and into a small part of Colombia. "
It is not hard to discover by looking at an animals Geography,
why certain B.C.C. from those two major and different Geological
areas, share allot of the same characteristics within those two ranges.
Take even Emerald Tree Boas for example. There are two major phases of emeralds; " We call them Northerns and then we have the striped Basins. "
Throughout the Highlands, covering the countries mentioned above,
most all of the Emeralds from those Highlands look like the Emeralds we call Northerns and ones from Colombias highlands,
look pretty much Identical to those from the Shield Highlands
of say, Suriname for example.
On the other hand, the Basin type Emeralds from Marajo Brazil,
look for the most part the same as the Basin types that have been
photographed in the lowlands of the llanos of Venezuela " BUT both locales are from lowland Basin! "
Should B.C.C. be any different?
Do we really need all of the labels?
Or, is it possible that the same mentioned above, applies to them also?
With a little research and " common sense " theres that word again, we may come to a true realization of just that.
Just like the examples on the Emerald Tree Boas, I have seen "
boas from Pucallpa Peru, look just like Boas from Iquitos Peru and Boas from those two Locales that look like TRUE LETICIAS and
boas from the llanos in Venezuela, look like Boas from Southern Ecuador, " BUT " they are all from the lowland Basin areas and none of the above mentioned look like the B.C.C. from the highlands, except for a very rare and usually unproven exception." However, the Highland B.C.C. can share the same kind of looks within their range.

Do you guys finally see were I am going with this?
As I have said before; " I remember when Boas were labeled the
same as the two Emerald groups mentioned. " There were simply called; " Guyana Shield Boas or Amazon Basin Boas. "

To get one of the Basin Boas, was always such a treat!

John J.

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