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Had 1 corn in the clutch came out half and half....kinda cool...but I wonder what it would be genetically?

Also I have a adult male albino, he is not the dad of the babies just thought I would share pics..

Andy

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their pretty cool looking.
all the babies came out like that?
what were the parents?
adam
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This was the only one that was like this...out of 12 eggs 6 snows and 6 albinos...I count this one as a snow....but we shall see. They are all het motley.

Andy
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>>Had 1 corn in the clutch came out half and half....kinda cool...but I wonder what it would be genetically?
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>>Also I have a adult male albino, he is not the dad of the babies just thought I would share pics..
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>>Andy
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I bet that you will find it looking like a typical amel after a few sheds.
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Jimmy Johnson
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Draybars Snakes

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my amel corn looked similar to that snow when i got her although more orange and after 2 shed shes bright red now. Its an amazing transformation any ways.

She looked like this

And turned into this

That's what some call SUNRISE CORNS. They start out this way and as Jimmy said, over the next two or three sheds, the orange will really kick in. By the time they're a year old, they'll be intensely deep red/orange.

Don
South Mountain Reptiles

can you post an image of an adult sunrise corn? I'd like to see one because I believe thats what my corn is as well.

You cannot visually identify an adult sunrise corn. There is no phenotype for them, UNLESS . . . there are colorless scales on your adult. I have personally only seen this on the motlies and striped variations of this mutation, but it may be on non-stripes/motlies too. If so, you're looking for random areas on the snake where there used to be color, but now there is none. Scales that used to be orange are now white, and they get more and more of these each time they shed. This is not calico (not the blister-disease calico anyway). Again, if you don't have an albino striped or motley, you're not likely to see this. On striped and motley forms with this mutation, the anomalous areas tend to follow the pattern. On some of my striped ones, it appeared as though the snake had successfully squeezed out of it's cage, allowing many of the dorsal scales to be scraped off and replaced with colorless scar tissue. Another confusing twist is that it's not on ALL representatives of the mutation.

SO, I could send you a picture of a richly colored amel and tell you it was sunrise. Nobody could challenge that (except through breeding trials). Identifying one without the missing pigment anomalies would be like saying you can visually tell which of your common snakes are het for amelanism. There are no visual markers for such.
South Mountain Reptiles

o ok, I was just courious if there was a different in a sunrise compared to other amels, also is this genetic as if you bred one sunrise to another will all the offspring hatch with little pigment and eventually turn normal or is this trait just a freak occurence?

Some of these mutants do not look like the one pic'd in this thread. Some are light orange and some are even dark orange out of the egg. Others appear to be snows with just a slight blush of coral or pink, as you saw in the one pic'd. It is recessive, so if you breed two homozygotes together, you'll get all sunrise babies. Like so many other morphs, as neonates, no two will be the same, and in this case, there will be great visual variety in the brood.
South Mountain Reptiles