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caging 20 babies or 20 adults

Flavia Guimaraes Jul 02, 2008 09:58 AM

Well my female laid lots of eggs and the babies are poping out like pop corn!lol! I think that soon ill probably be the proud mother (or grandmother?) of 20 baby beardies.As i dont want to sell them or to give them away i wonder if i can cage them in two huge cages ( males separated from females) or once they reach sexual maturity they will kill each other?Is it ok to cage several males together in a HUGE cage? And females?

Flavia

Replies (9)

charleshanklin Jul 02, 2008 06:52 PM

Most females can get along with each other but every once in a while you will get an alpha female. The males on the other hand are best left alone. Alot of times they will not eat when breeding or if they can see a female. They will fight each other and it is best not to keep them with females all the time either. They tend to just beat on her and keep breeding to the point where it is unhealthy. Check out dragons 4 you. Jimmy has some nice cages that are fairly priced. Hope I helped .


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don't marry the cow when the milk is free when the milk drys up it's time for a new cow

Flavia Guimaraes Jul 09, 2008 07:48 AM

Thank you for your reply!

Beautiful dragon you have.Mine are reddish yelow but not THAT red.Congratulations.Whats its name?

Flavia

knightbreedfx Jul 02, 2008 07:54 PM

You might change your mind when you get the weekly food bill.

You definitely DO NOT want to house them together. Now is fine but after 8 weeks prepare to start buying cages.

Shaun

jeffk Jul 02, 2008 10:30 PM

put aside the fact of cageing them together. having 40 dragons will rack your food bill through the roof. each baby will probably eat about 40 to 50 a day. at least thats what mine did.best of luck to you.

if money isnt a issue then i would go with ordering from coldbloods.com he sells 1000 for 8.50 and sjips quick.
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Jeff Kearney
Orlando, FL

1.0.0 Egyptian Uromastyx (Dino)
2.7.0 Bearded Dragons (Too many to name)
1.0.0 Mali Uromastyx (Rex)
0.1.0 Ball Python (Ali)
0.1.0 Leopard Gecko (Layla)
1.0.0 Panther Gecko (Melman)
0.0.1 Corn Snake (Not sure yet)
0.0.2 Blue Phase Dumpys Tree Frog (Sticky, Squishy)

jeffk Jul 02, 2008 10:31 PM

sorry i meant 20 dragons. not 40
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Jeff Kearney
Orlando, FL

1.0.0 Egyptian Uromastyx (Dino)
2.7.0 Bearded Dragons (Too many to name)
1.0.0 Mali Uromastyx (Rex)
0.1.0 Ball Python (Ali)
0.1.0 Leopard Gecko (Layla)
1.0.0 Panther Gecko (Melman)
0.0.1 Corn Snake (Not sure yet)
0.0.2 Blue Phase Dumpys Tree Frog (Sticky, Squishy)

Flavia Guimaraes Jul 09, 2008 07:54 AM

Do you mean crickets?Thats what i should buy from cold bloods? Dead and dry crickets? Do they eat that?
I dont know about insects because i raised their parents without insects.On the beggining they dont grow very much or very fast only eating baby cereal and cooked chicken but they catch up later. The female is 18 and a half and the male is 19 and a half.Do you think they are smaller than the regular bearded dragons?

Flavia

PS I raise my leo geckos without insects too.

jeffk Jul 10, 2008 05:16 PM

yea crickets from cold bloods. your gonna have to deal with giving crickets. you would be making the dragon suffer.
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Jeff Kearney
Orlando, FL

1.0.0 Egyptian Uromastyx (Dino)
2.7.0 Bearded Dragons (Too many to name)
1.0.0 Mali Uromastyx (Rex)
0.1.0 Ball Python (Ali)
0.1.0 Leopard Gecko (Layla)
1.0.0 Panther Gecko (Melman)
0.0.1 Corn Snake (Not sure yet)
0.0.2 Blue Phase Dumpys Tree Frog (Sticky, Squishy)

PHLdyPayne Jul 03, 2008 06:31 PM

You want to keep all 20 babies? I suggest you sell as many as you can. All males will have to be in separate cages even if you don't put females in with them. Males will fight if housed together.

So that means, if you run on averages, about 10 separate cages for each male by the time they are 6 months old, maybe 8 months old if you want to push it.

It is unlikely you have a large enough cage or space to house a cage big enough to house roughly 10 females together when they are 6 months old or older (where they should be apart from males). Unless you want to turn a bedroom into a dragon cage. (10'x12' floor space), and hope all the girls get along...not feasible either.

Thus it is likely you will need at minimal, 13 cages, not counting your original pair's cage or cages. At worse, you will need 20 cages, plus your original dragon's cage(s)

as each cage for individual dragons should be 4'x2' of floor space and if you house 3 females together, in a cage of at least 5'x3' of floor space...you will need stackable cages definitely...and that is just when they all reach 6 months of age. Till they reach the age you need to separate them out and have adult cages built or bought, you still have to pay the cost of feeding 20 ravenous babies.

For the first 4 months you can expect feeding them 2-4 times a day, lets say each dragon eats 50 crickets each over the day...you are looking at a lot of crickets. So thats 1000 crickets a day just for babies...over 4 months... say 120 days and you are looking at 120 000 crickets. If you get them for $10/1000 (with shipping taxes etc. and to make it easier to figure out) you can be spending $1200 over that 4 month period on crickets alone. So roughly $300 a month and this doesn't count vitamins, calcium, greens etc.
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PHLdyPayne

Flavia Guimaraes Jul 09, 2008 08:02 AM

In my country is against the law selling and buying reptiles. I have the license ONLY to keep them as my private pets, inside my house.I cannot sell them.Feeding my beardies is very cheap. I give them dry baby cereal,cooked eggs, biscuits with vitamins and bird food. When they were smaller i used to give them cooked chicken too.I never gave insects to the parents. Oh well i tried to give a few roaches to them when they arrived home but the roaches were faster than them and i dont have the herat to cut the roaches legs.The experience lasted only a few days.

Flavia

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