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Does the wobble head in the Spiders affect at the time of breeding? My female spider does it during dark hours, is this typical?
Do Bumble Bees do it too?
Sorry for asking more then 1 question at the time.
Here's a pic of my spider.
Thanks.
Alfonso

I think your spider is saying.......... wuzzzzz upppppppp!

Pitoon

I dont think it would affect breeding, how do you think nerd produced them?, thats why they do that is from inbreeding

my spider does this to when he is out and about. some people say they can grow out of it but it is something you have to deal with with the spiders most of the time. other than that he eats and poops and is doing good

Yes, it is typical of spiders, some are worse then others some grow out of it some develop it as they grow older. It can be passed down to answer your second question, I had a male spider that showed no signs of wobbling that was breed to a pastel, we produced a bumblebee in the litter that wobbles. I have breed spiders with wobbles to produce spiders that have never wobbled and also vise versa. I dont beleive it is passed off as a genetic trait after pulling statistics from all of the clutches we have produced but I do beleive it is somehow bonded to the spider gene. Just my opinions on past experiences.
Kim
North American Reptile Connection
N.A.R.C

The spider morph is codominant, why would inbreeding be necessary? I think most spiders do this to some degree. A few may not but I bet they produce offspring that wobble.

I agree with Dacalio and would even venture to say that being co-dom spiders are extremely out bred. A lot of people breed spider males to completely unrelated females because of their co-dom genetics, making inbreeding highly unlikely. I think wobblers are a trait inherent with the spider gene that the offspring have a chance of having. Just my guesses… correct me if I’m wrong.
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Walter
WAR EAGLE!!!
"Fear is constant, only when you learn to live with it can you truly overcome it" - 300

the very first spider clutch had wobblers in it. If the wobble trait was from inbreeding how was this possible? While I have no doubt that Kevin did a few spider x spider sib breedings initially, he did not do alot of them once there was no super proved out. The spider morph is probably the most outcrossed morph this hobby is working with. Can we get rid of the wobble with selective breeding? I doubt it but hopefully we can cut down on the severity or the frequency that it happens in the future.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons, boas, dogs, cats, fish, an amel tiger retic female, a couple sulcatas and a few other odds and ends.

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A lot of spiders do it, I have had spiders breed to an import snake so there was no inbreeding, but some of the offspring still do it.
Thanks

Thank you all for the good info, I guess i will not be worry as I was couple of weeks ago.
Alfonso