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Eastern albino flame updated pic

scott_felzer Jul 09, 2008 02:20 PM

This girl is 57 days old now and is getting more flame color w/ each shed.

Scott

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Albino garter snakes

Replies (14)

scott_felzer Jul 09, 2008 02:22 PM

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scott_felzer Jul 09, 2008 02:24 PM

Thio is one of the nicest Carteret Cty, NC x Schuett albino holdbacks that were produced. She is 67 days old and has gained more color w/ each shed.

Scott

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Link

scott_felzer Jul 09, 2008 02:28 PM
tomdickinson Jul 09, 2008 03:30 PM

np

daneby Jul 09, 2008 07:41 PM

That thing is killer!

Dan

scott_felzer Jul 09, 2008 07:49 PM

Want to thank Wayne for doing a great job on getting a large group of non feeders feeding well. I sent Wayne around 20 non feeding babies that were giving me fits to get to feed voluntarily. He took the time to work with them and get them going.

Scott

dekaybrown Jul 10, 2008 09:44 AM

That was Cool Scott, Thanks. They are all eating like piggies now on fish and worms. Some have the nicest red colorations to them.

Have a look at how plump they are starting to get

Your parcel arrive yet?? I never got a tracking number. My box arrived on monday.

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1.0.0 Ball Python - Python regius "Cane" Rescue
0.1.0 Eastern MilkSnake WC "Carmella" adult super sweet temperment (seven egg clutch!)
1.2.3 Storeria dekayi Casper, Xena, Athena, & Kids (30 plus released!)
2.1.0 Thamnophis sirtalis - eastern Garters
1.1.0 Thamnophis RADIX - Snow Hets, Scott Felzer
0.0.1 Thamnophis sirtalis - Red Phase Eastern Garter red and white stripes
0.0.15 HET Anerythristic Red-Sided Garter Scott Felzer stock.
1.1.0 Thamnophis sirtalis CB "Flame" & Melanistic Scott Felzer
1.0.0 Thamnophis pickeringi - Puget Sound Garter "Sky" (adult, Sky blue)
0.0.1 Nerodia sipedon - Water Snake - "Aqua" adult WC
0.1.0 Storeria occipitomaculata - Red Belly snake (Her children were raised & released)
0.0.1 Amelanistic Corn Snake "CY" Juvinile CB
1.0.0. Pueblan Milk snake "Oreo" adult CB
1.0.0. ASIAN GREEN SNAKE 3' WC Cyclophiops major"Limon"
0.0.1. Savannah Monitor "CHOMPER" Growing fast!
0.1.0. Green Anole "Crystal" WC
1.0.0. K9 "ACE" Black Cockapoo
0.2.0. Feline"Felix"(R.I.P. 4/27/08) "Kaja" & "Silver"
2.1.0. calico RATS
2.4.?? Mice - Feeder farm - Crickets / fish
More herps than I could ever list out back on the land.

boxienuts Jul 10, 2008 01:55 PM

Nice job Wayne! They look great!!!
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Jeff Benfer

1.0 pastel Python regius
1.1 mojave Python regius
0.1 normal Python regius
1.3 Terrapene carolina thriunguis
2.3 Terrapene carolina carolina
4.1 Kinosternon baurii
1.1 Malaclemys terrapin terrapin
2.2 double het albino and anerythristicThamnophis sirtalis parietalis
1.0 anerythristic Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis
2.2 Iowa snow Thamnophis radix
0.2 het Christmas albino Thamnophis radix
1.1 double het cherry erythristic, albino Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 melanistic Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 triple heterozygous for amelanistic,carmel, and stripe Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 anerythristic motley Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 Okeetee Pantherophis guttatus

boxienuts Jul 10, 2008 12:31 PM

Scott,
hmmmmmmmmmm, interesting, nice looking snake, great one to holdback, huh!!!
Jeff
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Jeff Benfer

1.0 pastel Python regius
1.1 mojave Python regius
0.1 normal Python regius
1.3 Terrapene carolina thriunguis
2.3 Terrapene carolina carolina
4.1 Kinosternon baurii
1.1 Malaclemys terrapin terrapin
2.2 double het albino and anerythristicThamnophis sirtalis parietalis
1.0 anerythristic Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis
2.2 Iowa snow Thamnophis radix
0.2 het Christmas albino Thamnophis radix
1.1 double het cherry erythristic, albino Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 melanistic Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 triple heterozygous for amelanistic,carmel, and stripe Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 anerythristic motley Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 Okeetee Pantherophis guttatus

Scott_Felzer Jul 10, 2008 03:22 PM

If I have problems w/ the albino flame (stopping feeding), would you be ok w/ me sending her to you? lol..she is actually doing well at this time.

Scott

PS Jeff took a few non feeders off my hands too and got them going as well, thanks for helping too!

boxienuts Jul 10, 2008 04:20 PM

Scott,
I'm assuming the photos are of a snake from that litter where actually only one of the parents was het for flame (het flame for lack of a better term), man the flame is really kicking in considering only one parent was het flame and not both, what percentage are showing that much flame? or is it really various intermediate amounts of flame showing up in the babies, which is more what we predicted would be the case, since flame isn't really a single locus allele?
Jeff
P.S. still waiting for other red-sided to have babies, but she shed 10 days ago, so hopfully any day!!!
P.S.S.
Wayne,
Shoot me an email and I will reply and see if it works this time
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Jeff Benfer

1.0 pastel Python regius
1.1 mojave Python regius
0.1 normal Python regius
1.3 Terrapene carolina thriunguis
2.3 Terrapene carolina carolina
4.1 Kinosternon baurii
1.1 Malaclemys terrapin terrapin
2.2 double het albino and anerythristicThamnophis sirtalis parietalis
1.0 anerythristic Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis
2.2 Iowa snow Thamnophis radix
0.2 het Christmas albino Thamnophis radix
1.1 double het cherry erythristic, albino Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 melanistic Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 triple heterozygous for amelanistic,carmel, and stripe Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 anerythristic motley Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 Okeetee Pantherophis guttatus

Scott_felzer Jul 10, 2008 11:18 PM

Jeff,

Tom Dickinson produced the double het flame albinos last year. I got 2 pairs from him, 2.1 were normal looking and the 0.1 is a flame. That flame bred to her sibling to create the albino flame. The flame trait is wierd cuz it is co-dom, breeding it to unrelated snakes produces flames (and normals). It can also be bred into to create hets, which I did w/ the leucistic, got flames and normals that were all 100% het leucistic. In my opinion flames are a great morph to work with cuz their colors vary plus you can outcross and always get flames and also breed morphs into them to get hets. Just my 2 cents worth.

Scott

dekaybrown Jul 12, 2008 12:09 PM

If that albino flame stopped eating, It would take me all of 8 hours to make it to your front door.....

Wayne
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1.0.0 Ball Python - Python regius "Cane" Rescue
0.1.0 Eastern MilkSnake WC "Carmella" adult super sweet temperment (seven egg clutch!)
1.2.3 Storeria dekayi Casper, Xena, Athena, & Kids (30 plus released!)
2.1.0 Thamnophis sirtalis - eastern Garters
1.1.0 Thamnophis RADIX - Snow Hets, Scott Felzer
0.0.1 Thamnophis sirtalis - Red Phase Eastern Garter red and white stripes
0.0.15 HET Anerythristic Red-Sided Garter Scott Felzer stock.
1.1.0 Thamnophis sirtalis CB "Flame" & Melanistic Scott Felzer
1.0.0 Thamnophis pickeringi - Puget Sound Garter "Sky" (adult, Sky blue)
0.0.1 Nerodia sipedon - Water Snake - "Aqua" adult WC
0.1.0 Storeria occipitomaculata - Red Belly snake (Her children were raised & released)
0.0.1 Amelanistic Corn Snake "CY" Juvinile CB
1.0.0. Pueblan Milk snake "Oreo" adult CB
1.0.0. ASIAN GREEN SNAKE 3' WC Cyclophiops major"Limon"
0.0.1. Savannah Monitor "CHOMPER" Growing fast!
0.1.0. Green Anole "Crystal" WC
1.0.0. K9 "ACE" Black Cockapoo
0.2.0. Feline"Felix"(R.I.P. 4/27/08) "Kaja" & "Silver"
2.1.0. calico RATS
2.4.?? Mice - Feeder farm - Crickets / fish
More herps than I could ever list out back on the land.

dekaybrown Jul 09, 2008 07:25 PM

Very nice scott..

Thanks for posting that.

Regards,
Wayne A. Harvey
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1.0.0 Ball Python - Python regius "Cane" Rescue
0.1.0 Eastern MilkSnake WC "Carmella" adult super sweet temperment (seven egg clutch!)
1.2.3 Storeria dekayi Casper, Xena, Athena, & Kids (30 plus released!)
2.1.0 Thamnophis sirtalis - eastern Garters
1.1.0 Thamnophis RADIX - Snow Hets, Scott Felzer
0.0.1 Thamnophis sirtalis - Red Phase Eastern Garter red and white stripes
0.0.15 HET Anerythristic Red-Sided Garter Scott Felzer stock.
1.1.0 Thamnophis sirtalis CB "Flame" & Melanistic Scott Felzer
1.0.0 Thamnophis pickeringi - Puget Sound Garter "Sky" (adult, Sky blue)
0.0.1 Nerodia sipedon - Water Snake - "Aqua" adult WC
0.1.0 Storeria occipitomaculata - Red Belly snake (Her children were raised & released)
0.0.1 Amelanistic Corn Snake "CY" Juvinile CB
1.0.0. Pueblan Milk snake "Oreo" adult CB
1.0.0. ASIAN GREEN SNAKE 3' WC Cyclophiops major"Limon"
0.0.1. Savannah Monitor "CHOMPER" Growing fast!
0.1.0. Green Anole "Crystal" WC
1.0.0. K9 "ACE" Black Cockapoo
0.2.0. Feline"Felix"(R.I.P. 4/27/08) "Kaja" & "Silver"
2.1.0. calico RATS
2.4.?? Mice - Feeder farm - Crickets / fish
More herps than I could ever list out back on the land.

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