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got a random question for yall....a few years back i remember someone in the breeders section of the kingsnake buisness section had a competely jet black ball python. at the time it had not been proven and i believe there were on "het" males available. does anyone know what or whom i'm talking about and if so does anyone know if it was proven or anything came about of it. kinda popped into my head so i figured i'd throw it out there. mike

The first black ball was produced by Gulf Coast Reptiles in 2002. It is genetic as the super form of what is now known as the black pastel/cinny pastel. There are many people working with these genetics as the price has come down considerably over the last 6 years.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons, boas, dogs, cats, fish, an amel tiger retic female, a couple sulcatas and a few other odds and ends.

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

for your PR skills?

They are great friends and produce great animals. I have no problem talking good about them. With that said, I like to give dates with facts and giving credit where it is due no matter who I am talking about.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons, boas, dogs, cats, fish, an amel tiger retic female, a couple sulcatas and a few other odds and ends.

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

That's cool man. Good friends should be celebrated. Just messin with you cause I've noticed a pattern when you talk about their achievements. Like I said, all good.

Finally!!!

I think everyone has wanted to ask that ......
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J&J REPTILES
www.jnjreptiles.com
sales@jnjreptiles.com
(207)479-6658

Can you guess what everyone wants to ask JNJ?

Hey Josh,

I believe he may be speaking about another, completely different snake. Seems like I recall seeing one a few years ago as well.
It was SOLID JET BLACK! Neither the Super Cinnys nor the Super Black Pastels look as BLACK as the snake I am speaking of.
Seemed like Vin Russo may have been the one who was woking with it....or perhaps my memory has failed me.
But is was different from the animals produced by Chris.
I had heard about possible hets being produced...but never heard anymore about it.
I too have often wondered what became of this project.
It would be great to read a post by anyone with details about this JET BLACK BALL project.

Take care.
Harlin Wall - WALL TO WALL REPTILES!
970-245-7611
970-255-9255

yeah i think we're talking about the same one. this one was a solid jet black like a high end jungle carpet black. and you were correct it was vin russo. thanks for helping me figure it out. i could remember the way the website was setup just not which breeder. lol if anyone knows anything further on that project let me know or see some pics. i might shoot him a quick email to see. thanks again everyone. mike