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Off Topic BCI's...

Some of my Candy Reeses babies post third shed....
CA-RE-09

CA-RE-07

CA-RE-02

Luna's brother, a salmon (I think?) pos TH moonglow

Mariah, a new Hypo Cyclone BCI female I picked up this year from Nick Stone

Cinnamon, a very stunning salmon, thinking about breeding her to Reeses this year...mmmmmmm Cinnamon Reeses, maybe I could sell that idea to Hershey?

On Topic BRB's

Apricot, one of my pearl line girls

Aubergine, another of the pearl line girls.

Biwa, the pearl line girl I recently resexed as a boy...

Ginger, one of my Will Bird line females

Zoe, the striped female I got from Jess to go with Ziggy and turned into a stunner herself!

Chrissy, my #1 holdback het hypo female from the breeding loan between Mike and I

Chuck, my holdback het hypo male littermate to Chrissy

Melanie, My holdback from Betty x Fred

Moon, my holdback from Savannah x Nathan

Bam Bam, OMG this guy really is this bright, every time I take him out he takes my breath away.

Fluffy, what can I say, the ONLY snake I do NOT take a pic of his name tag first to ensure proper identification later.

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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Updated pics of my three baby litter (actually was four to start with but the albino male did not make it). The product of a DH Snow female and a TH Moonglow male.

This is the female, clearly a Salmon, also pos het Albino and Anery making her a POS TH Moonglow. She was the smallest of the litter. Not sure if she was a surviving twin where the other did not develop or just a small baby. In the pile of slugs there were normal sized ones and a good number of relatively tiny slugs. Maybe she came from one of those smaller ova?

This is the male, also a pos TH Moonglow...

Both together for comparison.....

And with their sister Luna, the Moonglow.



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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

starting to look very much the same arent they dave, you have had quite a dramatic colour change on all of yours, will be interesting to see if mine do the same. Im still struggling a bit with them though, they all very fussy eaters, well all but one, who wants to try and take my arm of when i feed

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Dave

2.2 Normal BRBs
2.1 Anery BRB
4.4 66% poss het anery BRB
2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo

In the mail from the states
1.1 het hypo BRB
1.1 something special BRB

aims to work out what all my 66% hets really are, and then go from there. Sky the limit, well maybe

All 8 of mine are chow hounds, rarely skip a meal.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

lucky sod
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Dave

2.2 Normal BRBs
2.1 Anery BRB
4.4 66% poss het anery BRB
2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo

In the mail from the states
1.1 het hypo BRB
1.1 something special BRB

aims to work out what all my 66% hets really are, and then go from there. Sky the limit, well maybe

Dave,
...When they are being difficult feeders it is often because of something we are doing. Try going down on cage temps for several days to see if that makes any difference on the feeding. If not try bringing them back up to a little warmer than what you now have.
Jeff

>>lucky sod
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>>Dave
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>>2.2 Normal BRBs
>>2.1 Anery BRB
>>4.4 66% poss het anery BRB
>>2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo
>>
>>In the mail from the states
>>1.1 het hypo BRB
>>1.1 something special BRB
>>
>>aims to work out what all my 66% hets really are, and then go from there. Sky the limit, well maybe

yeah have tried that jeff, tried most things in the book. I have about 30 tubs at the moment, consisting of the pearls, and all the rest about the same age. Everyone is great eaters, except for them. However they are all very active etc etc, and when do decide to eat, strike feed like nothing else, i think they just being stubborn New rack should be finished today, so i will see how they go using that.

cheers for the info
and what do you think of the similarities between the 2 lines of pearls, definetely something there i think
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Dave

2.2 Normal BRBs
2.1 Anery BRB
4.4 66% poss het anery BRB
2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo

In the mail from the states
1.1 het hypo BRB
1.1 something special BRB

aims to work out what all my 66% hets really are, and then go from there. Sky the limit, well maybe

Dave,

One thing I've tried is piercing the skull of the hopper mouse. An experienced breeder suggested that on another forum. While I don't have enough data points to conclude it worked for my ARB, he did take the last two with gusto after refusing a non-pierced hopper a day or two before that.

It sounds disgusting, but it really isn't that bad. I just poke
a hole in the hopper's head with a sharp knife.

Good luck,
Ed

>>yeah have tried that jeff, tried most things in the book. I have about 30 tubs at the moment, consisting of the pearls, and all the rest about the same age. Everyone is great eaters, except for them. However they are all very active etc etc, and when do decide to eat, strike feed like nothing else, i think they just being stubborn New rack should be finished today, so i will see how they go using that.
>>
>>cheers for the info
>>and what do you think of the similarities between the 2 lines of pearls, definetely something there i think
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>>Dave
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>>2.2 Normal BRBs
>>2.1 Anery BRB
>>4.4 66% poss het anery BRB
>>2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo
>>
>>In the mail from the states
>>1.1 het hypo BRB
>>1.1 something special BRB
>>
>>aims to work out what all my 66% hets really are, and then go from there. Sky the limit, well maybe

My few snakes have always been great eaters, but I'll soon be getting a baby blood python (and they're notorious for being picky eaters), so my ears pricked up when you mentioned the hole-in-the-skull trick, Ed. I'll file that away in case it's needed; THANKS!

>>Dave,
>>
>>One thing I've tried is piercing the skull of the hopper mouse. An experienced breeder suggested that on another forum. While I don't have enough data points to conclude it worked for my ARB, he did take the last two with gusto after refusing a non-pierced hopper a day or two before that.
>>
>>It sounds disgusting, but it really isn't that bad. I just poke
>>a hole in the hopper's head with a sharp knife.
>>
>>Good luck,
>>Ed
>>
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>>>>yeah have tried that jeff, tried most things in the book. I have about 30 tubs at the moment, consisting of the pearls, and all the rest about the same age. Everyone is great eaters, except for them. However they are all very active etc etc, and when do decide to eat, strike feed like nothing else, i think they just being stubborn New rack should be finished today, so i will see how they go using that.
>>>>
>>>>cheers for the info
>>>>and what do you think of the similarities between the 2 lines of pearls, definetely something there i think
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>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>2.2 Normal BRBs
>>>>2.1 Anery BRB
>>>>4.4 66% poss het anery BRB
>>>>2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo
>>>>
>>>>In the mail from the states
>>>>1.1 het hypo BRB
>>>>1.1 something special BRB
>>>>
>>>>aims to work out what all my 66% hets really are, and then go from there. Sky the limit, well maybe
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Renee
1.0 BRB (Loki)
2.0 amel & anery corns (Foxfire & Daguerre)
0.1 blood python (Duchess, arriving later this month)
1.1 Cats (Nightshade & Cuzzy)

FYI, it's called "braining". Have not done it myself, only read about it in several threads related to difficult eaters.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Renee,
...All of my Bloods were good feeders, including the ones I raised from babies. They are very slow metabolism snakes and so do not need so much caloric intake. They would eat big meals but then go a long time before needing another meal. I think some keepers are disturbed when they do not eat a meal every week.
Jeff

>>My few snakes have always been great eaters, but I'll soon be getting a baby blood python (and they're notorious for being picky eaters), so my ears pricked up when you mentioned the hole-in-the-skull trick, Ed. I'll file that away in case it's needed; THANKS!
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>>>>Dave,
>>>>
>>>>One thing I've tried is piercing the skull of the hopper mouse. An experienced breeder suggested that on another forum. While I don't have enough data points to conclude it worked for my ARB, he did take the last two with gusto after refusing a non-pierced hopper a day or two before that.
>>>>
>>>>It sounds disgusting, but it really isn't that bad. I just poke
>>>>a hole in the hopper's head with a sharp knife.
>>>>
>>>>Good luck,
>>>>Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>yeah have tried that jeff, tried most things in the book. I have about 30 tubs at the moment, consisting of the pearls, and all the rest about the same age. Everyone is great eaters, except for them. However they are all very active etc etc, and when do decide to eat, strike feed like nothing else, i think they just being stubborn New rack should be finished today, so i will see how they go using that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>cheers for the info
>>>>>>and what do you think of the similarities between the 2 lines of pearls, definetely something there i think
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>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>2.2 Normal BRBs
>>>>>>2.1 Anery BRB
>>>>>>4.4 66% poss het anery BRB
>>>>>>2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In the mail from the states
>>>>>>1.1 het hypo BRB
>>>>>>1.1 something special BRB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>aims to work out what all my 66% hets really are, and then go from there. Sky the limit, well maybe
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>>Renee
>>1.0 BRB (Loki)
>>2.0 amel & anery corns (Foxfire & Daguerre)
>>0.1 blood python (Duchess, arriving later this month)
>>1.1 Cats (Nightshade & Cuzzy)

Jeff, I see that all the time on the forums, somebody flipping out because their snake skipped a week, OMG, skipped two weeks. Talking like the snake will die if not force fed or something.

IMO one of the MOST common reasons a snake does not eat is because it's NOT HUNGRY!! Multiple reasons for that ranging from overfed to in shed to improper husbandry. I tend to feed mine a little on the small side and every week they are hungry again. I do notice if my prey size is towards the larger size, the next week I will have more refuse food. Speaking babies here.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

What, you mean they don't need three squares a day?!?

Yeah, I don't understand why so many people get worked
up about this. I haven't done any field studies, but
I would imagine that in the wild constrictors that eat relatively large (and high fat) prey items don't eat very often. Maybe
a lot of snake owners are anthropomorphizing? (I love that word!)

Thanks,
Ed

>>Jeff, I see that all the time on the forums, somebody flipping out because their snake skipped a week, OMG, skipped two weeks. Talking like the snake will die if not force fed or something.
>>
>>IMO one of the MOST common reasons a snake does not eat is because it's NOT HUNGRY!! Multiple reasons for that ranging from overfed to in shed to improper husbandry. I tend to feed mine a little on the small side and every week they are hungry again. I do notice if my prey size is towards the larger size, the next week I will have more refuse food. Speaking babies here.
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>>Thanks,
>>
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>>Dave Colling
>>
>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
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>>
>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
>>
>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>26.49 BRB
>>20.21 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
>>
>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Funny thing is we all do that "anthropomorphize" our pets. I'll pick on Jeff for just a second (sorry Jeff). Several weeks back when Jeff and I had just gotten our fetal heart monitors, I posted about it and finding multiple fetal heart tones in Vanilla, my Ghost BCI, at more or less around 80 beats per minute. Jeff thought I was getting the adults heart rate thinking that is way to slow for a babies heart beat. If it were mammalian, that would be true but because it's reptilian, the whole metabolism is much slower including the heart rates. Later with more testing, Jeff found his adult resting heart rate around 20-30 BPM, about half that of the babies which is more or less similar to mammals, the babies inside having heart rates in the 2X adult range.

I would expect in the wild, our BRB's would only eat in the once a month range (twice in a lucky month) and gorge on everything they could. I've seen it in my snakes where a coiled snake will try to wrap a coil on something else. ie catch two prey items at the same time.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Dave,
...My snakes talk to me so I think they are just like me. All the other humans on earth are different of course.
Jeff in Florida

>>Funny thing is we all do that "anthropomorphize" our pets. I'll pick on Jeff for just a second (sorry Jeff). Several weeks back when Jeff and I had just gotten our fetal heart monitors, I posted about it and finding multiple fetal heart tones in Vanilla, my Ghost BCI, at more or less around 80 beats per minute. Jeff thought I was getting the adults heart rate thinking that is way to slow for a babies heart beat. If it were mammalian, that would be true but because it's reptilian, the whole metabolism is much slower including the heart rates. Later with more testing, Jeff found his adult resting heart rate around 20-30 BPM, about half that of the babies which is more or less similar to mammals, the babies inside having heart rates in the 2X adult range.
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>>I would expect in the wild, our BRB's would only eat in the once a month range (twice in a lucky month) and gorge on everything they could. I've seen it in my snakes where a coiled snake will try to wrap a coil on something else. ie catch two prey items at the same time.
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>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Dave Colling
>>
>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
>>
>>
>>
>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
>>
>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>26.49 BRB
>>20.21 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
>>
>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

im ok when my snakes miss meals, it my anery group, they are all great eaters, including one of them, that basically gets any scraps left over, he will eat anything. As for the pearls, they are more difficult, the only one im worried about is one that hasnt eaten since 14th june (approx, cant be bothered walking to the snake room to check, it is 4am here) Its stil active, but have noticed it had dropped about 15grams give or take. Its had a shed during this time, and with no problems. Tried braining, no luck, tried everything to from pinkies, to some pretty big items. I think it will eat sooner or later, its more working out, when i really have to get serious with it.
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Dave

2.2 Normal BRBs
2.1 Anery BRB
4.4 66% poss het anery BRB
2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo

In the mail from the states
1.1 het hypo BRB
1.1 something special BRB

aims to work out what all my 66% hets really are, and then go from there. Sky the limit, well maybe

just adding to that, it was also the smallest baby in the clutch when they arrived, and by about 15-20grams. So it has always been tiny
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Dave

2.2 Normal BRBs
2.1 Anery BRB
4.4 66% poss het anery BRB
2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo

In the mail from the states
1.1 het hypo BRB
1.1 something special BRB

aims to work out what all my 66% hets really are, and then go from there. Sky the limit, well maybe

Jeff is correct, their metabolic rate is much slower then is typical with most Boids. Same holds true for Dumeril boas in my experience.

Meaning these snakes seem to gain weight more easily with less food intake then all the other ophidians I have kept over the years.
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Roberts Realm Of Reptile Research
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

So how frequently do you feed your bloods, Frank?

>>Jeff is correct, their metabolic rate is much slower then is typical with most Boids. Same holds true for Dumeril boas in my experience.
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>>Meaning these snakes seem to gain weight more easily with less food intake then all the other ophidians I have kept over the years.
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>> Roberts Realm Of Reptile Research
>>=========================================================
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Frank Roberts
>>
>>
>>
>>I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.
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Renee
1.0 BRB (Loki)
2.0 amel & anery corns (Foxfire & Daguerre)
0.1 blood python (Duchess, arriving later this month)
1.1 Cats (Nightshade & Cuzzy)

Every two-three weeks. I wait for a bowel movement to ensure they don't get constipated. I have heard others complain of this but mine do not do this most likely because I do not feed them weekly as adults.

>>So how frequently do you feed your bloods, Frank?
>>
>>
>>>>Jeff is correct, their metabolic rate is much slower then is typical with most Boids. Same holds true for Dumeril boas in my experience.
>>>>
>>>>Meaning these snakes seem to gain weight more easily with less food intake then all the other ophidians I have kept over the years.
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>>>>=========================================================
>>>> Roberts Realm Of Reptile Research
>>>>=========================================================
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>Frank Roberts
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.
>>-----
>>Renee
>>1.0 BRB (Loki)
>>2.0 amel & anery corns (Foxfire & Daguerre)
>>0.1 blood python (Duchess, arriving later this month)
>>1.1 Cats (Nightshade & Cuzzy)
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Roberts Realm Of Reptile Research
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

This is just the kind of experienced insight I'm looking for on these forums!

>>Every two-three weeks. I wait for a bowel movement to ensure they don't get constipated. I have heard others complain of this but mine do not do this most likely because I do not feed them weekly as adults.
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>>>>So how frequently do you feed your bloods, Frank?
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>>>>>>Jeff is correct, their metabolic rate is much slower then is typical with most Boids. Same holds true for Dumeril boas in my experience.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Meaning these snakes seem to gain weight more easily with less food intake then all the other ophidians I have kept over the years.
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>>>>>>=========================================================
>>>>>> Roberts Realm Of Reptile Research
>>>>>>=========================================================
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Frank Roberts
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.
>>>>-----
>>>>Renee
>>>>1.0 BRB (Loki)
>>>>2.0 amel & anery corns (Foxfire & Daguerre)
>>>>0.1 blood python (Duchess, arriving later this month)
>>>>1.1 Cats (Nightshade & Cuzzy)
>>-----
>>=========================================================
>> Roberts Realm Of Reptile Research
>>=========================================================
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Frank Roberts
>>
>>
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>>I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.
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Renee
1.0 BRB (Loki)
2.0 amel & anery corns (Foxfire & Daguerre)
0.1 blood python (Duchess, arriving later this month)
1.1 Cats (Nightshade & Cuzzy)

>>This is just the kind of experienced insight I'm looking for on these forums!
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>>>>Every two-three weeks. I wait for a bowel movement to ensure they don't get constipated. I have heard others complain of this but mine do not do this most likely because I do not feed them weekly as adults.
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>>>>>>So how frequently do you feed your bloods, Frank?
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>>>>>>>>Jeff is correct, their metabolic rate is much slower then is typical with most Boids. Same holds true for Dumeril boas in my experience.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Meaning these snakes seem to gain weight more easily with less food intake then all the other ophidians I have kept over the years.
>>>>>>>>-----
>>>>>>>>=========================================================
>>>>>>>> Roberts Realm Of Reptile Research
>>>>>>>>=========================================================
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Frank Roberts
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.
>>>>>>-----
>>>>>>Renee
>>>>>>1.0 BRB (Loki)
>>>>>>2.0 amel & anery corns (Foxfire & Daguerre)
>>>>>>0.1 blood python (Duchess, arriving later this month)
>>>>>>1.1 Cats (Nightshade & Cuzzy)
>>>>-----
>>>>=========================================================
>>>> Roberts Realm Of Reptile Research
>>>>=========================================================
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>Frank Roberts
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.
>>-----
>>Renee
>>1.0 BRB (Loki)
>>2.0 amel & anery corns (Foxfire & Daguerre)
>>0.1 blood python (Duchess, arriving later this month)
>>1.1 Cats (Nightshade & Cuzzy)
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Roberts Realm Of Reptile Research
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

Sometimes I wish Jack would be more like a Blood. He wants to
eat every time he sees me, and comes flying out of his enclosure whenever I open up the glass. I fed him 4 large anoles last night, this afternoon he's begging for more! Frank, next time
you have some stillborns, let me know how much you want for them.

Thanks,
Ed

>>Every two-three weeks. I wait for a bowel movement to ensure they don't get constipated. I have heard others complain of this but mine do not do this most likely because I do not feed them weekly as adults.
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>>>>So how frequently do you feed your bloods, Frank?
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>>>>>>Jeff is correct, their metabolic rate is much slower then is typical with most Boids. Same holds true for Dumeril boas in my experience.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Meaning these snakes seem to gain weight more easily with less food intake then all the other ophidians I have kept over the years.
>>>>>>-----
>>>>>>=========================================================
>>>>>> Roberts Realm Of Reptile Research
>>>>>>=========================================================
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Frank Roberts
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.
>>>>-----
>>>>Renee
>>>>1.0 BRB (Loki)
>>>>2.0 amel & anery corns (Foxfire & Daguerre)
>>>>0.1 blood python (Duchess, arriving later this month)
>>>>1.1 Cats (Nightshade & Cuzzy)
>>-----
>>=========================================================
>> Roberts Realm Of Reptile Research
>>=========================================================
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Frank Roberts
>>
>>
>>
>>I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

>>Sometimes I wish Jack would be more like a Blood. He wants to
>>eat every time he sees me, and comes flying out of his enclosure whenever I open up the glass. I fed him 4 large anoles last night, this afternoon he's begging for more! Frank, next time
>>you have some stillborns, let me know how much you want for them.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Ed
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>>>>Every two-three weeks. I wait for a bowel movement to ensure they don't get constipated. I have heard others complain of this but mine do not do this most likely because I do not feed them weekly as adults.
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>>>>>>So how frequently do you feed your bloods, Frank?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jeff is correct, their metabolic rate is much slower then is typical with most Boids. Same holds true for Dumeril boas in my experience.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Meaning these snakes seem to gain weight more easily with less food intake then all the other ophidians I have kept over the years.
>>>>>>>>-----
>>>>>>>>=========================================================
>>>>>>>> Roberts Realm Of Reptile Research
>>>>>>>>=========================================================
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Frank Roberts
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.
>>>>>>-----
>>>>>>Renee
>>>>>>1.0 BRB (Loki)
>>>>>>2.0 amel & anery corns (Foxfire & Daguerre)
>>>>>>0.1 blood python (Duchess, arriving later this month)
>>>>>>1.1 Cats (Nightshade & Cuzzy)
>>>>-----
>>>>=========================================================
>>>> Roberts Realm Of Reptile Research
>>>>=========================================================
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>Frank Roberts
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.
>>
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Roberts Realm Of Reptile Research
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

It's good to hear that your bloods always fed well. How often did you feed them (every 10-14 days or longer in between feedings)?

>>Renee,
>>...All of my Bloods were good feeders, including the ones I raised from babies. They are very slow metabolism snakes and so do not need so much caloric intake. They would eat big meals but then go a long time before needing another meal. I think some keepers are disturbed when they do not eat a meal every week.
>>Jeff
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Renee
1.0 BRB (Loki)
2.0 amel & anery corns (Foxfire & Daguerre)
0.1 blood python (Duchess, arriving later this month)
1.1 Cats (Nightshade & Cuzzy)

I used to have some tree boas that were picky eaters and braining was the technique that finally got those guys feeding.
Another trick that I have used more recently is feeding fresh newborns, rats or mice, that still have blood and birthing fluid on them. This seems to be a pretty good stimulant and they'll usually take older food items soon after.

Milo

So far the best trick I've found for getting reluctant BRB to eat is quail liver on the face of the food item. If you cant get quail liver, try fresh chicken liver or even egg yolk. The blood seems to be the trigger with these guys so experiment. My 3 "reluctant" eaters are actually pretty bold eaters, I just have to offer them something they recognize as food. They're not shy, they're interested in what I've got and they dont hide from the tongs. 2 of them insist I play with their food so I get it nice and warm, offer it on tongs, make it quiver and jerk around a little bit, then make them chase it around the feeding tub a bit. These snakes will totally ignore food laying in their bin, but they'll eat every time if I play with their food for them. I've done the brains thing too and while it works every time with my other snakes, it doesnt seem to trigger the BRB at all.
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Julie

Surrounded by a bunch of BRB, some Ridleyi, a few Grey Banded Kings, Australian Cattle Dogs, a Belgian Malinois, assorted Mustelids and an incredibly tolerant male human.

Hmmm, I always "play" with the food!! Dangling it in front of them, moving it around, dragging it across them etc. until they strike. If they do not strike and coil, for the most part I don't leave the food.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Few of mine make me play with their food. I just set up the tubs, drop the thawed/warm prey item into the bin, then add the snake and close the top. I fill a bunch of bins, toss a dark sheet over, then go wash water bowls and fluff the cypress bedding. Once I'm done, I go collect everyone and put them back into their homes. Just about everyone eats this way. I probably have the most boring group of feeders on the planet, but nobody comes charging out the door the second its open grabbing at anything that moves. Its a pretty civilized group!
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Julie

Surrounded by a bunch of BRB, some Ridleyi, a few Grey Banded Kings, Australian Cattle Dogs, a Belgian Malinois, assorted Mustelids and an incredibly tolerant male human.

Now where's the fun in that??
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

The fun comes in getting them from the cage to the containers!

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Julie

Surrounded by a bunch of BRB, some Ridleyi, a few Grey Banded Kings, Australian Cattle Dogs, a Belgian Malinois, assorted Mustelids and an incredibly tolerant male human.

Funny! Were they being shifted from the cage to the containers for feeding?

>>The fun comes in getting them from the cage to the containers!
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>>Julie
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>>Surrounded by a bunch of BRB, some Ridleyi, a few Grey Banded Kings, Australian Cattle Dogs, a Belgian Malinois, assorted Mustelids and an incredibly tolerant male human.
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Renee
1.0 BRB (Loki)
2.0 amel & anery corns (Foxfire & Daguerre)
0.1 blood python (Duchess, arriving later this month)
1.1 Cats (Nightshade & Cuzzy)

Glad you like. She normally follows that up with a strike. She's 6'ish, he's 7'ish, its quite a strike.

Those shots were made by just opening the door and pissing her off a little bit. It doesnt take much, she has a bit of a 'tude.
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Julie

Surrounded by a bunch of BRB, some Ridleyi, a few Grey Banded Kings, Australian Cattle Dogs, a Belgian Malinois, assorted Mustelids and an incredibly tolerant male human.

Lots of gorgeous animals! Fluffy is fascinating! Was he born looking pretty much like that or has his color changed as he's grown? How often do piebald snakes breed similar offspring?

>Fluffy, what can I say, the ONLY snake I do NOT take a pic of his name tag first to ensure proper identification later.
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>>Dave Colling
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>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
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Renee
1.0 BRB (Loki)
2.0 amel & anery corns (Foxfire & Daguerre)
0.1 blood python (Duchess, arriving later this month)
1.1 Cats (Nightshade & Cuzzy)

I bought Fluffy as an adult from Brian Sharp, per Brian...

"This animal was purchased by another party at a reptile show in CA several years ago. It was normal in color at that point, but began to change color as a yearling."

I am breeding him to two different females under the assumption that at best this is a recessive trait. At worst it's a one off non-inheritable mutation. Somewhere in the middle a polygenic trait. Any way you look at it it's worthwhile to see what I can do with it.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Great pics as usual Dave.
Bam Bam and Melanie look like they might just glow in the dark! Ever tried it?
By the way Cinnamon is a really nice looking hypo. Great color. I would also have to say that Luna's brother definately looks hypo to me.

Thanks!!!

LOL, guilty!!! I have checked to see how light levels affect their glow/. as it get's darker, they glow less and less. No phosphorescence there!!!

I've thought he was a salmon from birth, just a different looking one, so much white, wow!!! It is good to get others confirming my thoughts. After all this is my first BCI season. My first time to look at a newborn BCI and go hmmmm, I think that is a xxx, but maybe it could be a yyy?
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

>>Off Topic BCI's...
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>>Some of my Candy Reeses babies post third shed....
>>CA-RE-09
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>>CA-RE-07
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>>CA-RE-02
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>>Luna's brother, a salmon (I think?) pos TH moonglow
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>>Mariah, a new Hypo Cyclone BCI female I picked up this year from Nick Stone
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>>Cinnamon, a very stunning salmon, thinking about breeding her to Reeses this year...mmmmmmm Cinnamon Reeses, maybe I could sell that idea to Hershey?
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>>On Topic BRB's
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>>Apricot, one of my pearl line girls
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>>Aubergine, another of the pearl line girls.
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>>Biwa, the pearl line girl I recently resexed as a boy...
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>>Ginger, one of my Will Bird line females
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>>Zoe, the striped female I got from Jess to go with Ziggy and turned into a stunner herself!
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>>Chrissy, my #1 holdback het hypo female from the breeding loan between Mike and I
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>>Chuck, my holdback het hypo male littermate to Chrissy
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>>Melanie, My holdback from Betty x Fred
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>>Moon, my holdback from Savannah x Nathan
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>>Bam Bam, OMG this guy really is this bright, every time I take him out he takes my breath away.
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>>Fluffy, what can I say, the ONLY snake I do NOT take a pic of his name tag first to ensure proper identification later.
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>>Thanks,
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>>Dave Colling
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>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
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>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
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>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>26.49 BRB
>>20.21 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
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>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

Man-oh-man...Bam Bam is spectacular!
Are you going to breed him?

>>Man-oh-man...Bam Bam is spectacular!
>>Are you going to breed him?

LOL, DUH would be the appropriate reply!!!

Thanks and yeah, I kept him to be one of my breeders!!!! Also breeding his parents again!!!!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Dave,
As always, wow. I'm looking forward to seeing what Fluffy passed along.
Thanks for sharing,
Paul

I am glad to see a pic of Zoey, have any of Ziggy from recently?
Maybe I should just stop by sometime soon, now that I am mite-free. Otherwise you going to the SJ show?
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Jess
2.3 adult BRBs (Sango, Dude, Copper, Cherry, Dudette)
1.1 juvie BRBs born 6/18/06 my first litter(Zeek, Isis)
2.2 neonate BRBs born 5/12/08 at approx 6:10 am
1.1 Pacific/Celestial Parrotlets (Smalls and Booger)
1.0 normal corn (Pop the Cornsnake)
1.1 african brown house snake (Nellie, Lacie)
1.1 crested geckos (Chips, Dijon)
0.1 paranoid mother "too many snakes!"
1.0 significant other that gives me a funny look when I say a baby snake is cute

Sorry Jess, nothing recent and yeah I'll be at the SJ show.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

>>Sorry Jess, nothing recent and yeah I'll be at the SJ show.
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>>Thanks,
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>>Dave Colling
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>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
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>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
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>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>26.49 BRB
>>20.21 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
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>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats