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East side...

cn013 Jul 10, 2008 08:51 PM

The first two are a couple beefy adult coastals. The last little guy just went through his first shed mere moments before the photo was taken... they don't get too much smaller... or brighter for that matter!

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cn013 Jul 10, 2008 08:57 PM

can be really under-rated I feel. The first two are F1 locale milks both from WC female. The last a week old neonate from the pair.

Hope you like'em.

Chris

Jeff Hardwick Jul 10, 2008 09:10 PM

Nice lookin' LTt Chris!
Those coastals are sooooo syspila.......
From around or in MD?
Jeff

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mike_panic Jul 10, 2008 09:18 PM

you kill me with that snake Jeff. Smoking hot. I hope all is well guys. Mike Panichi
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cn013 Jul 10, 2008 09:49 PM

All's well Mike... lovin the lil' guys! Hope the same's for you up in the city.

Have a good one,
Chris

cn013 Jul 10, 2008 09:48 PM

Just post a screamer hypo syspila and one up me! Wow what a knockout... As for the first it's a Bartlett line Calvert and yeah you're right... haha. The second is an F1 Burlington County, NJ. The shot gave no reference... so here are some others (not the greatest pics). Long somewhat more heavy-bodied milks... hmmmmn go figure. Anyway the 2nd pic is of a sibling to the Burlington which is pictured again last. There is yet another sibling here with nearly black head... pretty cool.

Tony D Jul 11, 2008 06:39 AM

I'm going to say this since the cat has been in the bag for too darn long. If what I've been hearing is correct coastals may prove to be remnant populations of syspila. Another way of saying this is that syspila once extended eastward and has left genetic influence in the mid-Atlantic coastal plains
An Analysis of Post-Wisconsin Biogeography of the Prairie Peninsula Region Based on Distributional P

Sunherp Jul 11, 2008 09:09 AM

Tony,

Biogeography rocks, doesn't it?! Are we to expect lots of hatchling photos soon?

-Cole

cn013 Jul 12, 2008 01:49 AM

that mitochondrial DNA evidence backs it up... it better... I have a thought that really is tightly hinged on that sole notion. LOL...

In any case I'm truly looking forward to some of the answers to be had so to speak. It's amazing how much 'intuitive' knowledge we may gain...

Where are those shots of your youngins? Would please help?

Chris

Tony D Jul 14, 2008 12:30 PM

I put in a request to have an additional 2 hours added to each day. Rquest was denied, reason sited was that I'l likely waste it taking snake pictures! LOL

Will get on it soon.

Sunherp Jul 11, 2008 09:13 AM

Damn it, Jeff! Posting photos of animals like that makes everything I hatched out this year look like...

Awesome critter.

-Cole

Dniles Jul 11, 2008 07:23 PM

Chris, I have always loved easterns and those are killer. Are you working with multiple locales?

Dave
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cn013 Jul 12, 2008 01:39 AM

Very cool Dave... glad to see another fan! I do work with a 'few' locales actually. It's actually pretty funny... hands down, as a group they're my favorites. Though I've been really quite lucky in the majority of the group I've got to work with...

Here are a few others... all MD locale and I plan on pairing the bottom two this upcoming season... Anyhow these would possibly be better described more accurately as an eastern milk/'temporalis' intergrade. Though I have a sibling to the bottom pair that's very obviously more eastern-influenced. Anyway I'm hooked on these guys... these lines especially are proving to be pretty variable and really cool.

Glad to you like'em... and glad to see your season is underway!

Chris

Dniles Jul 12, 2008 04:01 PM

Chris, very nice. That pair you plan to breed next year is really outstanding. I'm sure you'll get some sweet hatchings from them. Maybe I need make sure I have a couple of empty tubs next summer! LOL

Dave
DNS Reptiles

cn013 Jul 12, 2008 08:05 PM

if all goes well I think I may be able to help you out there!

Chris

Joe_M Jul 11, 2008 07:54 PM

I like 'em Chris. They definitely have a little different look to them than the ones up here. What is the locale on them?

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cn013 Jul 12, 2008 12:53 AM

Thanks Joe... It's safe to say I like the look to yours!! Actually that monster female(?) you caught is quite a beautiful milk as well! I must say I'm really glad you've been following the locale route on them as well...
Keep up the good work with that little guy!

Chris

Sunherp Jul 11, 2008 09:05 AM

Awesome animal, Chris! I especially dig the neonate elapsoides and the adult F1 easterns. You're building one hell of a collection, buddy!

-Cole

cn013 Jul 12, 2008 12:49 AM

Thanks Cole...

Appreciate the compliments on them... there will be more hatchling SK photos if you and Doug really like them... lol. Both of my current hatchlings took hopper tails unassisted tonight. I'm hoping the trend continues.
As for the eastens... I just can't get enough of them apparently as well. I'm just pretty lucky to have these particular snakes...
Hope you're having fun with all the newbies this year...

Talk to you soon man!

DMong Jul 11, 2008 09:43 AM

Awesome!, man!...........nice and healthy looking!

That's a cute little SK whipper-snapper on the bottom pic!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

cn013 Jul 12, 2008 12:30 AM

Now to get the little whipper-snapper feeding... lol.

Chris

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