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Wouldn't it be nice?

boxienuts Jul 13, 2008 06:20 PM

Wouldn't it be nice to see CBB box turtles produced in large quatities by both hobbiest and professional breeders, and if they were a dime a dozen and readily and easily bought and sold, and different morphs and combos of morphs, just like most of the other popular reptiles?
Well maybe I'm just a dreamer? Ya think? lol
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Jeff Benfer

1.0 pastel Python regius
1.1 mojave Python regius
0.1 normal Python regius
1.3 Terrapene carolina thriunguis
2.3 Terrapene carolina carolina
4.1 Kinosternon baurii
1.1 Malaclemys terrapin terrapin
2.2 double het albino and anerythristicThamnophis sirtalis parietalis
1.0 anerythristic Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis
2.2 Iowa snow Thamnophis radix
0.2 het Christmas albino Thamnophis radix
1.1 double het cherry erythristic, albino Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 melanistic Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 triple heterozygous for amelanistic,carmel, and stripe Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 anerythristic motley Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 Okeetee Pantherophis guttatus

Replies (8)

Chicagoboxturtle Jul 14, 2008 09:48 AM

It sure would be nice. I've been thinking about getting my three toed a girlfriend and it's pretty close to impossible to find a box turtle over the age of 2 that hasn't been WC. I guess people think "Why bother raising them when you can just grab some out of the woods". It's kind of sad.

bonomoc08 Jul 14, 2008 11:46 AM

I think they're kind of doing morphs with redfoots, but I'm not sure if it's morphs or just localities. I know I payed a hefty price ($385.00) for my male Columbian redfoot, but I don't know how to identify different morphs, except with ball pythons, and bearded dragons, to a point.

fekes Jul 14, 2008 05:41 PM

The only problem with producing different patterns and colors is that turtles breed so slowly that it might take decades to prove out a color unlike geckos where it takes a couple years.

Turtles take anywhere from 4-10, 15 years to mature compared to geckos around 6 months to a year.

I would love it though don't get me wrong! I want to breed my high red male and female EBTs and see if the babies are like them.

curtis9980 Jul 14, 2008 05:54 PM

And that's probably the problem; too many "breeders" are seeing the short-term downside of not being able to sell "hot" colors and patterns right away, without weighing the longterm effects of taking those hot turtles from the wild.

Personally, I would take a dull colored captive-bred boxie anyday over a super colorful wild caught one. I can sleep better at night.

PHBoxTurtle Jul 17, 2008 07:42 PM

The problem with breeding large quantities of box turtles is box turtle live to be 75, even 100 years old. These are reptiles that will outlive one, maybe 2 or 3 owners! I don't think we need tanks full of box turtles like we see with leopard geckos or other short lived herps. Tess

boxienuts Jul 18, 2008 11:30 PM

Well true Tess, but Koi also live that long, people pass them down from generation to generation and the breed them by the truckloads, and half the people in town have some in there backyard pond, what would be wrong with boxies having the same popularity and respect as Koi.
Besides I was just dreaming about boxie morphs anyway, that was my point, wouldn't it be nice to have designer morph boxies even though that is not realistically feasible.
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Jeff Benfer

1.0 pastel Python regius
1.1 mojave Python regius
0.1 normal Python regius
1.3 Terrapene carolina thriunguis
2.3 Terrapene carolina carolina
4.1 Kinosternon baurii
1.1 Malaclemys terrapin terrapin
2.2 double het albino and anerythristicThamnophis sirtalis parietalis
1.0 anerythristic Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis
2.2 Iowa snow Thamnophis radix
0.2 het Christmas albino Thamnophis radix
1.1 double het cherry erythristic, albino Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 melanistic Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 triple heterozygous for amelanistic,carmel, and stripe Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 anerythristic motley Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 Okeetee Pantherophis guttatus

mdterp Jul 24, 2008 03:51 PM

I know this is an old thread, but i was wondering how you would be able to tell a boxie morph from a locality. There are so many boxies with different patterns. In animals like leopard geckos(normal type) they all have the same general coloration and patterns.
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bonomoc08 Jul 26, 2008 03:10 PM

I was wondering the same thing. I guess you could classify easterns from different states as morphs.(?) Easterns colorations/patterns vary by state, and even counties. Three of my Easterns is from Jackson County, AL, and another one is from Belvidere, TN(not sure which county).The three from Jackson County, AL are almost a high red color, even the female, and young juvenile. The one from Belvidere is a yellow-ish color.
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Cliff

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