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The pics suck because they are pre-shed.

This is the first "TRUE" SNOW Brooks king ever produced. It is a result from crossing the T negative albino (red eye albino) brooks into a anerythritic brooks.

What makes this Brooks different from the other Snows is they came from a T posite (aka Lavender albino x anerythristic) breeding. The lavender snows have been around a long time but this is the first ever true snow brooks ever produced

Female:

Here it is next to a T negative albino on the right.

The clucth it came from had Lavenders, lavender snows, normals, anerythristic, and one snow.

From bottom to top is a normal, snow, T negative albino and lavender snow. All clutchmates

Froam left to right-
SNOW, T NEGATIVE ALBINO, LAVENDER SNOW, LAVENDER

here you can see a (1)snow, (2)lavender, )3)lavender snow, (4)normal and (5)anerythristic.

Here is the T negative albino and the true snow in the forground. You can see the red eyes that both of these pocess:

T negative and true snow again in foreground. You can see the lavender snow laying below them:

Normal on foreground crawling ontop of the other clucthmates:

T negative and T negative albino SNOW (True snow):

from left to right-
SNOW, T negative and lavender(T positive)snow

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ÌÏËÙÍ ËÁÂE!

"I have high friends in places."-H.Sherman in some bar

Nice!
The difference between Tneg and Tpos is very apparent.

Thanks for the comparison shots!
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I decided my old sig was too big.

What a beauty, so are the others as well.

very nice!

daveb
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in the light, you will find the road...

Rainer, Congrats! I am almost gonna stop asking "are we there yet?",lol. But I do have a question on this breeding:
Now if they are both triple het parents they can produce
1-normal
2-anery
3-Lav
4-T-
5-lav snow
6-True snow
7-OPAL
8-Triple homozygous
My question is...how are you going to be able to tell what is a OPAL??? A TRIPLE HOMO??? The eyes start to give them away for sure, but you have potentially 6 different albinos coming from a single clutch. I KNOW you are good at looking at the subtle details but if you dont know what they will look like how would you know what you get??

That's an interesting question - does Tneg mask Tpos or does it make something visually new?
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I decided my old sig was too big.

I have some pics of OPALS that i could show you but then I would have to kill you.

I think only a couple people can appreciate the suttelties like I do. That is why I just keep things like that to myself. I figure after the Brooks market matures it will be wanting in on these new morphs.

Right now most people can't wrap their minds around a simple morph like a Jelly. Gosh can you imagine what would happen if i posted pictures of Opals or triple het homos??? LOL! I am still explaining the differences to people between a Peanut Butter and a hypo. If I post Opals someone might start posting something like PINK hypos on the classifieds...LOLOLOL!

Okay just joking (mostly) but I will post some interesting finds from this year after the snakes shed and i get a new camera. I bought another and it washes out the colors of the reds and yellows as well. I like Brandons camera.

Brandon , if you are reading this.. what camera are you using again?
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ÌÏËÙÍ ËÁÂE!

"I have high friends in places."-H.Sherman in some bar

Oh I forgot to answer your first question.

yes these are a result from breeding triple het to triple het.

Triple het parents were:
Sulfur lavender snow bred to a T negative albino.

making them Het for:
*anery
*sulfur lav
*T negative albino
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ÌÏËÙÍ ËÁÂE!

"I have high friends in places."-H.Sherman in some bar

Rainer are these produced from the same kind of hets i have from you? I think yo called them the 3x het blizzard or 007 i dont remember.

>>Oh I forgot to answer your first question.
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>>yes these are a result from breeding triple het to triple het.
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>>Triple het parents were:
>>Sulfur lavender snow bred to a T negative albino.
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>>making them Het for:
>>*anery
>>*sulfur lav
>>*T negative albino
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>>ÌÏËÙÍ ËÁÂE!
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>>"I have high friends in places."-H.Sherman in some bar
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Life moves pretty fast, if you dont stop and look around once and a while,... you could miss it.

n/p
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I decided my old sig was too big.

I got some yellow rats from Don S several years ago as dbl het snows...that ended up being TRIPLE het for the same genes as your kings. None of the genes had been seen before, none of the combos, and add to that the metamorphism.....I raised em, bred em, got a whole bunch of different things(opals)...but gave up on the project because people either didnt care for yellow rats AT ALL or were always convinced that they were a 2 generation hoax hybrid....which they werent. SO, I know idiots/uneducateds/indifference.
Back to kings, if you have to explain the difference between the 2 you are right. But I am hoping anyone with the BIG CHEESE enough to buy that girl you put up for sale would both understand and appreciate the difference. That said, if you are getting a generation jump on "the competition" fine. But anyone interested in this line will hopefully ask the question, just happens I was the first.I am thinking that it will be VERY difficult to determine some of them given variation....kinda like the hybino hondo.
With 60 holdbacks from last year you are planning on either a snake invasion or a big practical joke for an ex girlfriend! I am sure I know which way you are leaning......

Glad to see the pictures Rainer! Thanks for posting, they're really impressive!
Ryan

A big congrats Rainer!! That's awesome!!

Way to go, very killer looking!

Scott D

1.2 Blk Kings
3.0 Florida Kings
1.1 Desert Kings
2.1 Speckled Kings (Harris county)
1.1 Eastern Kings
1.1 West Langtry Greys
1.0 Thayeri
0.1 Sinaloan Milk
0.1 Banded coastal Cal King
1.0 Aberrant desert King
0.1 Desert banded Cal King
1.1 Outer Banks Kings
1.0 Mex blk King
0.1 Aberrant Sonoran Bullsnake (WC)

can't wait to visit your table at the upcoming "Brooks Expo"! It will be exciting to see all these morphs in person.

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Kevin
www.harrellandsonsherps.com

That is very cool indeed, well done and congratulations.

Very Very Cool

.

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PDC

n/p
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ÌÏËÙÍ ËÁÂE!

"I have high friends in places."-H.Sherman in some bar

Congrats on producing another beautiful type of kingsnake. But I hate to see you using (abusing) the word "True" and "brooksi" together to describe them. I'm under the impression they're not even all floridana let alone south Florida.
I applaud you for all the effort in coming up with clear adjective terminology to describe the color morphs. The number of getula combinations is really getting up there now. How 'bout equally clarifying the subspecies/locality mix (or purity in some cases)? You have such a presence here that the names you use will be picked up by a lot of people.

nada

I actually LIKE the name "true snow" as it refers to the GENE not the SSP. I will agree with the "brooksi" part of the argument, even locality kings of the "brooksi canal" no longer represent the historically described SSP. BROOKSI now represents more of a commercial appeal than any scientific relevance.

I used to feel this same way as you about the "brooksi" being only from south Florida. But i decided to change my position because of marketability. When i place an ad for Florida kings some people don't know what they are. And most that advertise northern Floridana are calling them brooksi. Thus I am ruining my own marketability fro these snake while competing with an abused term that everyone uses anyway. If you check i was a big proponent of calling snakes from s. Florida brooks. My constant explaining to people the difference did not make a dif to them. Matter of fact all it did was hurt the marketing of these snakes.

Bottom line these "True Snows" are both Brooksi and florida kings. But they are all floridana anyway. The brooksi name has just hung around for marketability. If I have true brooksi I advertise them as "locality animals from S. dade county". That distiction does not get much response from buyers either way. Most don't care if a Brooks is from S Dade county Florida or not and that is the bottom line.

I wish it were different because i have triple hets that all trace back to s dade county stock. But the people out there just get bored and want to hear about the cool factor and are not that interested in which border that the Florida comes from or what side of the highway a brooks is from. The one found today all look like dark florida kings now anyway.
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ÌÏËÙÍ ËÁÂE!

"I have high friends in places."-H.Sherman in some bar

thas really cool man congrats! have you crossed tneg and tpos yet? make for some cool dbl.hets.,,,,,,,,thomas
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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

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