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I've recently acquired a 1.2 trio of Crotaphytus collaris. They are incredible lizards, and I now plan on adding a few more species from the genus to my collection!
Anyway, I've been researching the genus online, and I am familiar with the four subspecies of collaris. Still, it is difficult for me to determine exactly what subspecies my new acquisitions are, and I was hoping the regulars may be able to offer some insight. I'm leaning toward C. c. baileyi, but I honestly can't be sure.
Here is the male.

This female is obviously exhibiting breeding coloration. Does she appear gravid?

And here's the other female. She's slightly smaller than the other two.

And a group shot.

Any help on determing what subspecies these guys are would be greatly appreciated. Also, if anyone would like to offer some acclimation tips that would be very helpful.
Thanks and I hope to spend some considerable time on this forum from now on.
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Roy Blodgett
Green Man Herpetoculture
royreptile@yahoo.com

1.1 Drymarchon corais
2.2 Pseustes sulphureus
1.1 Pseustes poecilonotus poecilonotus
1.1 Lystrophis pulcher
1.1 Lampropeltis getula californiae (desert phase)
1.1 Boiga dendrophila dendrophila
2.3 Pogona vitticeps (snow and red/gold)
1.0 Iguana iguana

Well they are a stunning trio for darn sure, I believe they are C. collaris, just a handsome trio maybe from a Texas/ NM locale, I could be wrong. Although the male is really marked COOL ( I like him) I do not believe he is C. baileyi. May have some in him, nice yellow.

Your girls are real pretty also, the one looks like she may be ready to mate,( ovulating) she is showing her blush color, or maybe even had a clutch earlier before you got her, shes a bit on the thin side. Just keep an eye on things.

But congratulations you have a really awesome trio and should be seeing some cute kids down the road. Hope you keep posting (pics too) we love them. Nice to have you and your pretty friends!

Enjoy the forum
Suncharmers kids

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PHEve / Eve

I think Eve is correct, that male looks like southern New Mexico or maybe west Texas. The gravid colors on the female look pale to me, although it could be my monitor. I think she either already had a clutch or is just getting warmed up, just as Eve said. (Things usually turn out just like Eve says!!) I do see a lump in her belly, but suspect it is lunch.

I have had the best luck acclimating wild lizards when their habitat has only one glass side to it. I cover the inside of the other three sides (with something 3 dimensional) to eliminate reflections off the glass.

Welcome to the forum and make sure you post lots of photos!
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Valerie Rae

We may have all come on different ships, but we're in the same boat now.
--Martin Luther King, Jr.--

God bless the USA

Definitely C. collaris (probably S.E. NM or Western Texas). I am not a fan of subspecies due to the clinal variation of all Crotaphytid species- plus the very likely hybridization between species. Google Jimmy McQuire. He is a professional herpetologist and has published several scientific articles that make subspecies a thing of the past.

Oldcrota

Sweet!!!!!!!!!!!

roy......jim k here........nice set there guy!!!!!!!! handsome male too!!!!!