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I bred two 100% het albinos this year and yesterday out of 5 eggs, I did not produce one albino. I know the breeder and he is a pretty reputable guy but what are the odds of this happening. Anyone have bad luck like this?

>>I bred two 100% het albinos this year and yesterday out of 5 eggs, I did not produce one albino. I know the breeder and he is a pretty reputable guy but what are the odds of this happening. Anyone have bad luck like this?

It's just the way it goes sometimes...who knows,next year you could have a windfall clutch..of say four albinos out of five eggs?..it could happen too.
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Charles Glaspie
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It's completely possible. I've heard of people breeding pastels to normals and getting no pastels. It's all luck pretty much.
Try again next season. If you don't get any next season...then I might question the hetitude of your hets.

(See that. I invented a word)
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last year het caramel x het caramel from BIG breeders= 7 normals.
Female decided not to lay this year. Gonna have to wait another year for provification.

Yes, I know provification is not a word. I'm a big fan of GW's vocabulary.
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It happens. The odds of getting an albino are only 25%

The 25% chance of homozygous albino from het X het is per egg. Each egg has a 75% chance of not containing an albino.

With 5 eggs the cumulative chance of none of them being albino is 0.75^5 = 23.7% So you where unlucky but not that unlucky. Long-term roughly 1 out of 4 such clutches would miss in a large number of such breedings. Maybe next time you will be one of the 3 lucky ones.

Now if the clutch had been bigger, say 9 eggs then you would have had a 1 - 0.75^9 = 92.5% chance of hatching at least one albino. But even then you could have been the unlucky 7.5 in 100 and not hatched any albinos. Feed mom up to lay more eggs next year and improve your odds. Of course an albino male will also greatly improve your odds if that is in your budget.

that sucks--but I have it topped this year--

spider x normal--9 eggs--no spiders!!!

the odds are per egg, not per clutch

Very possible-we just hatched out 5 eggs from a het pied bred to a pied, and only one pied out of 5. Theoretically half should be pieds.
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Brad Chambers
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The Avalanche has already started-it is too late for the pebbles to vote....

If you breed 2 hets together and get 5-egg clutches every year, you should EXPECT to miss on the visuals every 4 years. Like most others here, I've missed on larger clutches, too.
Paul

It happens, but it doesn't mean they are not true 100% hets, if you bought them from a good breeder. You just mist the odds this time around.
I had a Spider breed a normal last year and all the babies were normal, thats how things go.

This year I bred two 100% Het for albinos and got 5 eggs, two went bad and 3 were left. Well yesterday day 53, I slit the eggs and what did I see, 1-albino and two hets. I was lucky or better yet, the all ball godds were kind.

Good luck with them!!
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C-Rodriguez Reptiles

It is very possible and unfortunatley it happens. We just hatched all normals from 7 eggs, from mojave to normal. On the possitive side we just got 3 lemon blasts and 3 normals from a pastel breed to a pin. I guess you just never really know. For the most part the "ratios" people say you should get from a punnet square is more so over the corse of time, if you had 5 clutches of five eggs from het to het you would probally be close to the odds.
Good luck next year
Kim
N.A.R.C

That's nothing, I just hatched a clutch fro, a lesser to a normal. 6 eggs ALL normals. I actually had the exact situation as you last season. 5 eggs het albino to het albino and nothing.
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John Vandegrift

It happens all the time to someone every year this year it hit me spider 100% het ghost to ghost female 3 eggs no ghosts 5 spiders and 3 normal type, same spider het male to het female 7 eggs 5 spiders, 1 ghost and 1 normal type so I know the spider is a true het. This was my oldest sons first season breeding lemon to normal 3 eggs all normals.
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Damian Macioce
www.strongholdreptiles.com

.....you have to try at least one more year....

.....litter last night.....normal normal normal normal normal normal......pied...........so it took all 7 to get one pied ,.....from a het to poss het.......st least she proved out to be a real het......that makes both poss hets were actually het......yes they have markers.....

....and yes a het pied bred to a wierd confiscated ball can make het pied looking babies and even a ringer....so I have to breed her next year to a pied and see if she might be het pied........3 eggs wasn't enough to even think of disproving her out....

good luck.......it's only another 360 days and you'll get more babies from her to hatch.............LOL
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