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Does anyone else have a problem with ...

gypsy1dragon Jul 19, 2008 02:04 AM

Does anyone else have a problem with their rats chewing holes in the plastic tubs? My rats all seem content and happy, but they have chewed holes in several of their tubs. I came in and found one tub on the floor where they had weakened its rim so it fell out of its rack. Funny thing was, the rats were still sitting in the tub just looking around.
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ge Jul 19, 2008 05:28 AM

i have the same problem its miserable to go through all the work building the racks etc. and the day after you clean one the rats chew it up. once they start chewing you cant stop them. try and figure out which rat's the chewwer and get rid of it. thats sometimes hard with 1.5 in a bin. i've patched mine with aluminum flashing and pop rivets which stops them. i just picked some new tubs yesterday and they are getting metal around the rim before they get used. try putting some small hunks of wood in for them to chew ,no pressure treated.

CrimsonKing Jul 20, 2008 08:55 PM

I once had wild rats get into my shed and eat through the tubs from beneath each one..They then proceeded to murder all my mice!
Didn't eat them just killed 'em.
I think 12 tubs in one night!
Bizzare sight.
:Mark
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cinderellawkids Jul 21, 2008 08:15 AM

Constantly!!!!

I use wire cages and old bird cages for that reason. My neighbor had a wild rat get in the garage and he ate through her rubbermaid container to get to her dog food.
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littleindiangirl Jul 22, 2008 09:29 AM

Well, like I've said before, rats learn by doing what other rats do. They go right up to other rats noses and mouths to get at what they may have. Whether that be food or something to chew.

First, it may suck if you have a small colony, but you can narrow down who the chewers are by simply getting rid of the ones in the tub that was chewed out of. This stops any would be chewers from teaching other rats.

Some rats have malocclusion problems. This literally means their teeth grow sideways or outwards. It makes it difficult for the rats to eat, but they may have found a way to keep the teeth to a good size by chewing the tub. If they didn't, the teeth would grow up and outwards, often through their skull. It is genetic and passed from parents to offspring easily.

Just something to keep in mind. I remember reading about someone that had rats with weird teeth that would chew through flat surfaces. He had to get rid of the entire group and start over. Since then, no chewers.

Look at the design of your rack itself. Does the lip of the tub meet the wood framing perfectly? Is there any gap at all? When you make the slider frames, try for the tightest fit possible. Over time the gap will most likely increase with use, simply from rubbing on the hardware cloth screen. It will get easier to open them.

When we first made my rack, it was a PITA to open, especially with one hand, and rats in the other. Over time it has worked into a very easy opening tub.

Making it tight as possible will limit the rats from getting a tooth around it.

What are you offering for feed? Lab blocks are hard and help wear down the rats teeth, taking care of a lot.

Do you offer any wood blocks to chew? You can usually find untreated wood in 2x2" or 2x4" at home depot for a good price. I cut down a few sticks of that into 4 inch sections and give the rats a couple new pieces every few weeks. Some rats just pee on them, but many use them. Especially pregnant or nursing females. They seem to go through them like crazy.

Lastly, are you giving the adult rats enough room? Tightly, confined rats are going to be stressed and rats deal with stress by chewing.

Rats love scraps. Have any scraps of chicken bones? Leftover hard foods? Give it to the rats.

Hope this helps a little, that's all I could think of off the top of my head.
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eric561 Jul 22, 2008 02:59 PM

I have noticed some of my rats will chew when the reservoir for their gravity fed water system is low and there is not enough pressure for the rats to drink. Now I make sure to fill the reservoir before it gets too low. Funny thing is that even after creating a hole big enough to get out of, they just stay in their cement mixing tubs. These chewers get the gas (co2) as recommended. Good luck.

Plindsey Jul 25, 2008 11:33 PM

At the first sign of gnawing on tubs I act quickly and decisively. This policy of genetic enhancment seems to work as I have lost only one mortar tub in about 7 years now.

My worst trouble was with some random escapees who discovered that the most expediant way to get a drink was just gnaw a hole in the drinker lines without regard for the fact that they were sentencing some of their cousins to a watery grave below. It took me a long while to get them pacified.

Peter
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