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Thank you for posting some pictures that much more clearly illustrate the Blonde T Albinos. I am sure there are more pictures out there that will help continue to solidify the reality of what you have there. I am now a believer. That is something that I was not before, exactly because nobody ever posted these type of images to prove that they simply are what they were claimed to be. Now for a few comments on them.

This is my opinion mind you. It seems to me that the difference between the normal appearing siblings and the Blonde T Albinos is not nearly as great as the difference between VPI T-Positive Albinos and the non-mutant siblings. The same is true of the Paradigm, Caramel and Prodigy Boas. They jump out at you leaving no question who is who. Even a poor quality image would reveal something dramatic in the differences in some of the litter mates from one another. This appears to be true according to the images that both Marc and Alan have posted. I would equate these to almost equivalent of the Sharon Moore Caramel Boas, but less dramatic in terms of the disparity of the offspring within a litter. The difference in the Sharon Moore Caramel babies and the normal siblings, is still greater than the Blonde T Albinos. At least that is the case in the few images we have seen of each of them. The interesting thing is the Blonde T Albinos seem to react with the Sharp Albinos in a similar way too. I will further comment on that later as well.

Images posted by Marc:

This first image shows a stark contrast, but these two babies are probably the extreme example of babies found within the litter:

Note: While the entire litter is in the goo, I can't with certainty, see which are which. This is because this mutation, generally speaking, does not seem to have the same degree of impact on the production of melanin as some of the other known T-Positive type animals.

Here several other siblings show the sometimes more subtle difference

Images posted by Alan:

and

Sharon Moore, who is the longest term Boa breeder on the planet, has been breeding Boas for more than 30 years now. She produced the first T-Positive type Albinos before any of us knew what they were. She called her mutant babies, "light phase" babies. Here is one of her pictures from the 1980's:

and another:

I think the difference between the Blonde T Albino babies and the normal siblings, is subtle and could possibly leave room for some subjectivity. That is, some might possibly be identified as visual homozygous animals, when i actuality, they may in fact actually be only heterozygous for the Blonde T Albino mutation. This could help explain the reason for the otherwise inexplicable results that Peter Rice posted the other day. Maybe the believed Blonde T Albino is only a het. If that is the case, then that would make the results of the four visual animals perfectly logical.

I am very happy to have seen these additional pictures. It clears things up in my mind anyhow. I am always excited about more possibilities for more great animals. The fact that they seem to make something else crazy with the Sharp bloodline, whether as I hypothesize or not, just adds to the interest in this critter and the possibilities that may be capitalized upon.

I should also mention one other fact that is probably all too obvious. I remain a big mouth who just can't keep quite! LOL
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Heres my question and I've ask some people about these possibilites. No one seems to have an answer. What did Sharon do with all of these "Light Phase babies" in the 1980's and after ? Did she keep them or were they sold and all of those genetics are just floating around out there ?
. . . . . Lar M
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Boas By Klevitz

I think it's possible that the reason that the Blonde T babies don't jump out at us in a goo shot as much as the Prodigy and BW animals do might have something to do with the non-blonde ancestors. I haven't seen an animal het from Sharon Moore's morph that was anything but very nice looking. Clay's animals that produced the Prodigys came from you(the best selective breeder in the world).
If the parents of the hets were not exceptional animals, it makes sense that the babies that were homozygous would not be as striking as those produced using cleaner, lighter, nicer looking animals.
Good exampes of this include ghosts produce by just any old hypo, and any old anery, and those produced by breeding something like Andy's incredibles to one of your Ivory anerys, and producing awesome double hets to later make awesome ghosts.
Your pastel albinos are awesome red and pink animals, but thats because the hets that made them were awesome red and pink normals. I think only a part of the phenotype is the morph itself, and the other part is that some kids just look like their parents. I think that if me an my wife had an albino baby it would still have my nose.
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Davey Giltner

Davey,

I completely agree with your theory.

This is the very reason I chose to breed one of my visual Blondes to a nice male Pastel this year, in order to refine these Boas. The resulting litter is exactly what I hoped to achieve!

Sire

Dam

Litter

Marc

www.selectivebred.com

Nice...To bad so many miles and so many dollars seperate us! I'll just have to admire them from afar in your posts.
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Davey Giltner

Each of the so called T positive lines appears to retrict the appearance of various shades of color. The VPI line appears to fully or almost fully restrict the appearance of 'boa brown'. The T Blonde line obviously allows for some shades of normal boa brown to appear because it is present in all the homozygous T Blonde adults I've seen photographed. This is probably what causes less contrast between it and its normal siblings at birth and in adulthood when compared to same aged specimens from the VPI line. The Boa Woman line appears to be somewhere between the two.

Jeff,

Having read your post I must admit that considering you have not seen these Boas in the flesh you have made a very good interpretation of their appearance.

I agree that the contrast between the Prodigy / VPI visuals & hets does indeed appear to be more extreame than that of the Blonde Albinos. However the Paradigms should really be compared to the Blonde/Sharps rather than Blonde Albinos. I also agree that the Blonde Albinos most strongly resemble (visualy) the Sharon Moore Caramels, more so than any other line of 'T pos Albinos' that I have seen and that their genetics may also be most similar as they are both compatable with Sharp Albinos.

However, having produced a couple of litters of these Boas myself, of those I have seen there was absolutely no doubting which were visuals & which were hets, it is very obvious. The photo of the two siblings side by side shows pretty typical examples, some are more & some are less extreame, but I would not say there is any room for subjectivity.

The photo of my 2005 litter does not show this contrast very clearly, partly because they are covered in a thick layer of Boa goo & partly because most are out of focus, however those in focus in the foreground are pretty obvious. I guess I will have to refine my photograpy skills before my next litter!

Thanks for taking the time to give this fascinating morph the attention they diserve!

Marc
www.selectivebred.com

Marc I've been at your website many times over the past year . I also notice that you say the stripe(zig zag) trait is not related to the Blonde T trait. Have you noticed if it could suggest the trait is present in a higher percentage of the possible hets you have seen or absoluetly no connection between the two traits?
. . . . . Lar M
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Boas By Klevitz

I don't believe there is any connection between the two. It just so happens that many Boas from this line have an independent colour & pattern mutation.

The two original hets I started with both have 'zig zag' tails & all of the Boas they produced had some degree of connecting tail markings from very mild to pretty wild! The extent of striping on each individual does not seem to be influenced in any way by the Blonde Albino mutation.

The female visual Blonde Albino that I bred this year has very minor tail striping. She was bred to a male Pastel & none of the resulting hets expressed any stripes at all.

I have also seen other peoples visual Blonde Albinos with no striping at all, so I am confident that they are two independent mutations.

Marc
www.selectivebred.com

Just a note on the "Zig Zag" line. We believe the Zig Zag pattern to be recesive. Both my female and male het Blonde T plus, both had the wild zig zag pattern. They produced all zig zag offspring. I will post pictures soon, both of the het babies and the TPlus.
Alan
ICONBOAS

the Blond T + albinos look great and will be a great addition to any designer morph.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

all this is very exciting!!! world of possibilities await!! thank you Mr. Boaphile for putting it all in writing.

Mr. Manny
the Perfect Predator!

Blond Albinos (T albino)

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Gabor Kaminski

The second picture was made MANY years ago and it was one of the first snakes i bought from this line. I called them zigzag because many of the snakes had that funny pattern. The snake that is in the from of the zigzag is a sibling het.
I will post pictures of the 08 blond x blond after shed soon.

Thanx for looking. Gabor

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Gabor Kaminski

Peter, could you please post some photos of tongues of the T blonde albino female, babies-paradigms and babie-double-hets.