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Can a full grown rainbow boa be kept in a sweaterbox rack system or do they need aquariums?
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If holding a cobra does not make you sweat than you should not be holding one.

Well, first off IMO aquariums are for fish!! Seriously, there are two main problems with aquariums for BRB's

- Humidity escapes out the top, can be bandaided by covering most with a vapor barrier.

- Heat escapes out the glass, not an issue if in a heated herp room but in a standard house area can be hard to maintian proper temps.

All that said, back to the original question. IMO adult BRB's need a larger enclosure than a standard sweaterbox tub. Wioth sweaterbox defined as similar in size to Sterilite 1756 32 quart tub. I do keep several of mine in Iris CB110 (58 quart) tubs.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

dave just a query, those CB110 tubs you have, what are the dimensions of them in centimeters?

also i have been looking at some herptek cages, you can find the link at http://240plan.ovh.net/~herptek/herptek/. Im thinking of just buying a wall of the cages, when i get some money. You think the 90cmX60cmX35cm is big enough, for everything except the biggest girls?
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Dave

2.2 Normal BRBs
2.1 Anery BRB
4.4 66% poss het anery BRB
2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo

In the mail from the states
1.1 het hypo BRB
1.1 something special BRB

aims to work out what all my 66% hets really are, and then go from there. Sky the limit, well maybe

You would have to ask for th4e dims in CM huh!!!

after a quick conversion....

Somewhere around 90 x 45 x 15

IMO 90cmX60cmX35cm should be adequate for an adult, even a large one. Of course larger is always better.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

cheers for that, you dont have any pics of the snakes actually in there CB110s do you, that i could see the size comparison?

cheers for the info though
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Dave

2.2 Normal BRBs
2.1 Anery BRB
4.4 66% poss het anery BRB
2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo

In the mail from the states
1.1 het hypo BRB
1.1 something special BRB

aims to work out what all my 66% hets really are, and then go from there. Sky the limit, well maybe

I do like the precision but was raised on inches and feet.

I have this one I posted earlier, Fred is a full sized adult male, they don't come much larger.

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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Right now my adult BRB's are in 111 quart rubbermaid containers...which are much taller than the one mentioned above. Size of the cage is:

87.86 x 45.01 x 39.98 cm

(or 34.59 x 17.72 x 15.74 inches)

No clue why the dimensions on these tubs are not nice and rounded off. I do however find this is too small for my adults and plan to pick up some bigger cages for them. I really notice how small they are when I put the male in with the female for breeding. Though it was always interesting how they rearranged the cage furniture...stacked the two hides on top of each other over the water bowl, often with the paper towel shoved in as well.
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PHLdyPayne

Yeah, My CB110 tubs are for one adult BRB only, actually males and not being bred females. I do all my actual breeding in larger cages and yeah, they love to move things around. I do find with my large water bowls on top of the hides, they do not knock stuff over, just move it around a bit.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

i really like the look of those tubs, it seems it make it much easier to control everything, changing water, cleaning poo etc etc. Even my young ones, decide that they want to put there substrate into there water bowls everyday, and it becoming a pain in the arse.

Im having problem sourcing, those kind of tubs here in europe though. I can find white and black, roughly the same size, but much higher. But the only clear ones i can find, have wheels on the bottom, or curve the wrong way. Ive also contacted most US rack makers, but it would cost me the same as a leucistic BRB, to get them shipped here. Vision do have some, but not as big as i want, CB70 seems to be the biggest. And even at the price they are, i feel that i could make something just as good, at a lot less the price.

not sure what to do, my young ones are growing up fast.....
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Dave

2.2 Normal BRBs
2.1 Anery BRB
4.4 66% poss het anery BRB
2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo

In the mail from the states
1.1 het hypo BRB
1.1 something special BRB

aims to work out what all my 66% hets really are, and then go from there. Sky the limit, well maybe

The tubs which I just made my rack out of are IRIS VE175's which are just huge, and they have the wheels on them as well though I come to find out that they are really handy for sliding the tubs in and out of the rack and they don't actually change the height of the tub all around. Just a thought...
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Ike Lightner

1.2 BRB (Dugo, Roxy, & Brazita)

got any pics of your new setup mate? be great to see how you had done it. I sort of thought that the wheels would be more of a hinderence, maybe not. also, the ones with the wheels, are they set into the inside of the tubs, ie making it harder to clean?
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Dave

2.2 Normal BRBs
2.1 Anery BRB
4.4 66% poss het anery BRB
2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo

In the mail from the states
1.1 het hypo BRB
1.1 something special BRB

aims to work out what all my 66% hets really are, and then go from there. Sky the limit, well maybe

Only tubs I've seen with wheels had the wheel wells set into the tub. IMO a twofold problem....

Additional corners for unpleasant "stuff" to get into

I use paper for substrate, those non linear sides would be difficult to line the cage.

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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

guess will just keep on looking, i know exactly what i want, but just cant seem to find it here. Does anyone use, boxes that are not clear?
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Dave

2.2 Normal BRBs
2.1 Anery BRB
4.4 66% poss het anery BRB
2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo

In the mail from the states
1.1 het hypo BRB
1.1 something special BRB

aims to work out what all my 66% hets really are, and then go from there. Sky the limit, well maybe

Hello,

To answer your questions, yes I feel that adult BRB's can be housed in a rubbermaid type of container. In fact, I just got done building a 4 box rack that holds 4 IRIS VE175 tubs which I house my adult sized BRB's in. The gap in the rack is just large enough to allow for a nice high humidity as well as enough air exchange. Hope this can be helpful for you.
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Ike Lightner

1.2 BRB (Dugo, Roxy, & Brazita)

To me a sweater box is a serilite 1754 and is way to small for an adult. What I call a balanket box - a serilite 1756- is IMO still too small for an audult BRB. I know quite a few people using them for adults, but it is something I will not do. It is all what you are comfortable putting a snake into for size.
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Mike

7.13 BRB
1.2 Spotted Python
1.0 Cal. King