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Tri-colored hypo (mega line) bred to a real nice Falcon extreme.And I can say first off that he is not a hypo at all.The real reason I say this is because I have bred (as have many other people) falcon extreme animals to generic hypos and always got hypos.So,I know that its not my extreme that is the broken link here.
My male is het hypo for sure as I got one real nice (pretty much extreme) hypo and then the rest are normal.There could be a couple hypos but they don't really show it.But they are super clean bright tangerine babies with no tipping but there black is really black.

So, I really have to believe that my animal is actually a t albino.I thought this a few times when he was small cause he was actually purple when I got him.He has now changed to a color I really can't even describe.Its almost like a greyish yellow.Very weird indeed.

Now,I have some other clutches cooking that are due pretty soon that may answer some other questions but for now I know that he isn't a hypo of any kind.Also,I knew he wasn't just a extreme hypo in the tri-colored version cause he started tipping up as he started to grow.All the real extremes I have seen don't tip up at all.

Anyway, I also hatched out a clutch from my v.p. ghost female that I produced a few years ago and she was bred by this male and this males father as well the triple het that started all this crazy mega line stuff.This triple het has proved also to produce some crazy things when bred to about anything.
I ended up getting out of 10 eggs 4 anerys,1 or 2 hypos,2 or 3 normals and 3 ghosts.Now on the ghosts one is pretty normal just a tad light and very nice.The second is killer v.p and could be a low end mega ghost and the third is a super v.p.ruby eyed mega ghost.
Now, I am not 100% sure who the father was.I really didn't care cause I thought I would know since I thought I was breeding a hypo vs.triple het.If all I got was hypos and ghosts then I would know it was the tri-color as the father and if I saw anerys and normals also then I would know it was the triple het.But now since he isn't a hypo its hard to say.I know he is het hypo but I m not sure if he is het anery or not? I should find out in the next clutch.

So, I will wait for the rest of my clutches on the mega line stuff (4 more) and I will wait and see what Terry does when his hypo clutches hatch as well.Problem is there is a chance that Terry's "mystery" animal is a hypo and mine isn't.They have the same father but have different mothers.I have the mother that produced mine as well but after 5 years and over 60 eggs the only egg that has ever been good is the one that hatched my male.So maybe he is tottaly different than all of Terry's stuff but is also het for a few of them.
Next year will answer more questions also as I have about 5 animals that will go from Terry's stuff from 3 years ago.

So, here is a pic of my male when he was little.

here he is a little older.

here he is now.

here he is with his mother.

o.k. here is the falcon extreme female used.

here she is with her clutch.

couple eggs went bad but here is the clutch.Now they are all almost normal but can you imagine the genes these guys may be carrying?

So, there it is.I thought it would answer some questions but all it did was throw a wrench in things.LOL.. thats what makes it fun I guess.
I did expect a whole clutch of hypos and for maybe one or two to be Mega hypos. buy was I surprised.

L8r

Shannon ,that sure took the wind out of our sails ,I can't believe the whole clutch wasn't hypos ! So it looks like we are dealing with a different gene alltogether .This really makes things interesting .I do have several hypos close to laying , that were bred to the Mega male .I will let you know the outcome of those clutches .I do have a female that is like the dad from last year ,but she won't breed for two more years .I will breed the father and daughter and see if the produce all Mega hypos .It still looks like we have a long way to go whith this line

take care

Terry M..................Dad and female from 2007

Wow!,.....maybe there were some real "gems" in the eggs that went bad!,....who knows(shrug),.....but those still have some killer genetic material to offer!,...that's for sure!

later!, ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Wow, definately not the outcome I was expecting. One of the hatchlings looks pretty light, almost like an extreme, but maybe its just the photo? Things just keep getting more interesting...

Dave
DNS Reptiles

Very cool Shannon. My guess is that your right and the tricolor "hypo" may be a T + albino. Either that if extremes are really some kind of double mutant. Cant wait to hear about the other clutches.

Best,
Vinny
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“There is a grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that whilst this planet has gone on cycling according to the fixed laws of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved.” -C. Darwin, 1859

Natural Selection Reptiles

Wow, hopefully the other projects with that male extreme tricolor hypo will produce a nice replica of him.
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RAY - "Laziness is nothing more than a habit of resting before getting tired!"

Thanks Ray, Well yeah I guess the jury is still out on him.Maybe if I stayed inside this line I may be able to re-produce his look. I do think that it isn't the same gene as the falcon extreme.Some think it still is But I don't think so.
Anyway, I will keep testing him on things until I can pin it down so that I will know what I am selling to people.

L8r Shannon