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Beating the odds a lot.

CaseyLazik Jul 22, 2008 08:31 PM

This was a nice surprise!
I bred my male Honeybee to a Het for Ghost female. The Het female laid 9 eggs, including one she retained for a day.
Just after Independence Day, all 9 eggs started to hatch.

With 9 eggs, I was hoping on just hitting the odds of 2 Honeybees. Last year, for the most part, I had lousy luck .

I hatched 2.3 Honeybees, 1.0 high white Spider het Orange Ghost, 0.1 Orange Ghost, and 1.1 Het for Orange Ghosts.

I couldn't have been happier with this clutch!

I'd love to hear other people's results! Good and bad luck. I think it is all very fascinating.

I can't imagine my good luck continuing for too long but I'm hoping it doesn't change. I think I'm making up for some bad results from '07.

Thanks.

Casey
Casey Lazik Reptiles
Casey Lazik Reptiles

Replies (15)

emberball Jul 22, 2008 08:40 PM

The Hypo Spider has to be one of my favorite morphs, nice snakes and even better odds!

Dave

conleyherps Jul 22, 2008 08:41 PM

Great odds!!
Congratulations on a wonderful clutch, and the snakes are gorgeous. I love the honeybee.

Anthony

bpsrock Jul 22, 2008 09:29 PM

Beautiful clutch Casey - Congrats Man
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CaseyLazik Jul 22, 2008 09:43 PM

I just got lucky. I appreciate the nice comments.

Casey

morphed Jul 22, 2008 09:55 PM

We had a clutch of 7 eggs from Mojave to normal all 7 were normal. But then we had a pastel to pin clutch, 6 eggs, 3 norms 3 Lemon Blasts, I guess that isnt too bad. We also had a clutch of 7 eggs 2 spiders from spider to normal. Last year we actuaally did much better and we were beating the odds on morphs to normals --this year not yet. Our sex ratio has been great on the other hand. Last year heavy male this year heavy females. I guess it all evens out over the years Good luck with the rest of your season, there is no feeling in the world like watching eggs hatch and not knowing what you have inside the "tiny packages". May your luck continue with you and possibly rub off on some of us

Kim
N.A.R.C

CaseyLazik Jul 22, 2008 10:48 PM

That was a nice message. Thanks. I think you've done well-and you're doing something you probably love.

Yes, I think it does usually even out in time. Last year I bred a male Russo het to a female het and two female Mojaves. Three clutches, twenty eggs total. Not a single white snake out of all of them. To top it off, some Russo hets are not that obvious. I had a small handful of male Mojaves and a bunch or normal looking ball pythons.

This year, I owed it to myself to use the same male het, even though I had a male Leucistic (Lesser X Mojave) that was ready to go. One can go crazy missing those odds. I mean, I should have had 5 Lucies based on the odds, right? Well, that's not exactly how it works, is it? Never mind the money invested 3 years ago (I hear ya Evan), I could lose my mind or draw the wrong conclusion over this one!

So, instead of going for the better odds of using a male Lucy, I had to see for myself... you know 20 eggs, het to het, no homozygous snakes. OK.
That was last year.

Yesterday, 3 out of 7 eggs from a Mojave, fathered by the SAME male as last year, had leucistics babies inside. I showed my wife these three beauties and we were both ecstatic.

I'll be breeding white snakes for a long time before I make my initial investment back. I'm definitely OK with that!

Best wishes to you too, Kim!

Casey
Casey Lazik Reptiles
Casey Lazik Reptiles

morphed Jul 23, 2008 08:47 AM

Congrats, i am very glad you got your white snakes After what you said happened last year, I would have been bitting my nails around the 50 day mark. We had a 33% poss het pied male that we had breed for a about 3 years (this was almost 6 years ago) we held back alot of the females and decided to breed one back to the original male last year. There were 7 eggs in total, they all pipped and were all normals, then the next day I went in the incubator and there was a pied sticking his head out along side a normal poss het. I was in shock. The odds were horrible but heck he proved out.

Anyways good luck with everything else this season. We have a clutch from an Ivory to a YB and Mojo to Mojo, so hopefully we will have some "off" white snakes later this year

Kim
N.A.R.C

Herpout Jul 22, 2008 10:04 PM

Wow! that's a nice clutch.

Snakesatsunset Jul 22, 2008 10:05 PM

Great looking snakes, great odds. Cannot have enough of those on the shelf, no matter the value.

dbherp Jul 22, 2008 11:37 PM

Congrats Casey, they all look awesome.
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LibertyReptiles Jul 23, 2008 12:08 AM

Yep...I'd say ya definitely got it goin on this year Casey. I agree with the all evens out eventually thing...got two 6 egg Mojave clutches that yielded 3 total Mojaves, but then got 5 YBs from a 6 egg clutch and 3 Pastels from a 4 egg clutch. Like a box of chocolates...gotta love it.
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jgjulander Jul 23, 2008 01:12 AM

Very cool! Congrats on 5 honeybees. Hope your odds rub off a bit on me.
Justin
AAR

casnakes Jul 23, 2008 01:46 AM

Those HoneyBees are looking pretty sweet!! That is just a great clutch to hatch out. I'm still in awe over the head pattern on that Pastel Clown, and the colors it had on it's head in those first pictures you posted, while it was still in the egg...WOW!!

I have a 6 egg clutch due to hatch on the 30th, my first shot at getting HoneyBees. Male Spider het Hypo X Hypo female...I'll post pics and the results.

CARL AIKEN-SNAKES

shopony Jul 23, 2008 02:25 AM

Congrats on the great clutch!! I can't wait to have your kind of odds. Just got my entire snake racks setup and filled up with some normals and some nice morphs (especially the high white pied female). Had one female lay 4 eggs this year and just hatched out 2 nice pastels and 2 normals today, (pics to be posted later today). My wife and I can't wait till next season to breed all of our females since this was our first year breeding and it was exciting to watch and not know what was coming out next!!! Good luck to everyone, looking forward to seeing some nice pictures of everybodys success! Bob
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CaseyLazik Jul 23, 2008 05:12 PM

Thanks Carl,

I hope luck is on your side too!

Best regards,

Casey Lazik

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