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Hypo boxie?

nooby Jul 25, 2008 09:33 AM

Has anyone seen or have any pics of a actual hypo boxie?

Replies (7)

bonomoc08 Jul 25, 2008 09:44 AM

>>Has anyone seen or have any pics of a actual hypo boxie?

I posted a few places down that a friend gave me a Florida box turtle--well, the same person has a hypo eastern he found in Madison County, North Carolina, on a mountain about 5,000 feet up. They were doing logging, and there was a mud slide where they were clearing, and he was covered in red clay. The only thing he noticed at first was the bright red eyes.
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nooby Jul 25, 2008 10:07 AM

Very cool, I found a boxie while hiking last night and was wondering if she was a hypo or just a really aberrant normal. I brought her home to take some pics of her, I'll try to post them later. Her whole shell was a very light/cream colored brown with like no black on it at all. Her skin was different to, it wasnt the normal black. It was very light grey on her legs and almost white on her neck, feet and shoulder areas. The difference was extremely noticable, I spotted her from quite a distance away. Possible hypo?

boxienuts Jul 25, 2008 01:08 PM

There is a lot of variation in easterns to the amount of yellowish versus the amount of black/brown and pattern variation of shell, it's doubtful that it would really fit the true visual definition of hypo, and then it would be even more unlikely and even harder to prove that it would be a heritable trait which would be an even better characterization of "hypo", however the term hypo is used pretty loosely on the kingsnake classified from what I have seen, so personally I would say calling a light colored EBT that you found a hypo would really be a premature misnomer, but then again like I said the term hypo has been used so loosely that it really has lost it's value, especially in the turtle word as far as I'm concerned. IMHO.
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kensopher Jul 25, 2008 01:40 PM

Ditto to nuts.

I've seen an albino Eastern and an albino Florida...both with shell malformation. I have also had several albino Easterns that died in the egg...one was completely leucistic.

chelonian71 Jul 25, 2008 06:09 PM

Can someone tell me what "hypo" means in this sense? Usually to me "hypo" means "below" or "under"....

boxienuts Jul 25, 2008 07:33 PM

you are right, and it usually refers to lower or significantly lower amount of the dark color causing pigment; melanin. So hypo being short slang usually refering to hypomelanistic.
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Jeff Benfer

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oger6 Jul 29, 2008 07:31 AM

no pigment- so like an albino but not exactly

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