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Oops! We did it again... another Blazing Blizzard hatched out.

vmsherp Sep 03, 2003 06:41 PM

Well, we've hatched out a second Blazing Blizzard and I thought I'd post a baby pic for all to see. This one was incubated male, and will pair up nicely with our female hatched earlier this year if it turns out.


Many folks ask, so here's the story: We created a group of 2.9 double hets by placing a Tremper Albino female in with our group of Blizzards. All normal hatchlings from this box were held back as the desired double hets. Seemed like a simple way to do it...

These have now been bred together, yielding around 70 hatchlings so far this year. As expected, lots of normals, blizzards and albinos - all 66% het for blazing blizzard. To get 2 Blazing Blizzards out of just 70 or so hatchlings defied the ratio of 1 in 2000 often bantered about. Either I am extremely lucky (not likely based on life experiences..) or the odds are actually a lot lower than everyone thinks. Or maybe I have a 'hot' line of them going?

Who knows? here's a pic of the slightly older one, a little less afraid to open it's eyes!


Hope you enjoyed the pics!
VMS Profession Herpetoculture

Replies (13)

bradley Sep 03, 2003 06:54 PM

Only 70 hatchlings!!!!!?? Thats amazing. It's either all the people attempting at hatching blazing blizzards have a very small group of double hets or are just not as lucky as you guys.

I know snakebroker.com has a relitivly large group of double hets, I think 3.13, and they have a million blizzards, albinos, jungle albinos, and normals from the hets but I havn't heard of them hatching a single blazing. I think the 1:1000 ratio still stands on account of blizzards and albinos have been out for nearly 4 years and still we don't see any blazing blizzards available and still a very small amount of them have been produced. Believe it or not, but I think you guys have the magic group of geckos and are extremely lucky! Good luck with the project!
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Bradley Baquial

davecable Sep 03, 2003 07:11 PM

You're lucky, no matter what the odds, to have those two little gems. I bet you can't wait to see them grow up. Thanks a bunch for sharing the pictures and info about your blazing blizzard project. Keep us posted!

DaveCable

nasr_36 Sep 03, 2003 07:30 PM

Wow! So, what happens if u get m/f, and breed them? Will you get hets? Or pure BB?

LeosAnonymous Sep 03, 2003 09:27 PM

BB x BB will produce 100% BB's... though they will all be BB's genetically I wonder what ratio will retain the red eyes?

I guess time will tell.
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iluvblackfrancis Sep 03, 2003 10:28 PM

i've heard that something to do with the mixing of blizzard and albino causes all BB's eyes to be VERY red.
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Dakman Sep 03, 2003 08:00 PM

np
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LeosAnonymous Sep 03, 2003 09:24 PM

>>Well, we've hatched out a second Blazing Blizzard and I thought I'd post a baby pic for all to see. This one was incubated male, and will pair up nicely with our female hatched earlier this year if it turns out.
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>>Many folks ask, so here's the story: We created a group of 2.9 double hets by placing a Tremper Albino female in with our group of Blizzards. All normal hatchlings from this box were held back as the desired double hets. Seemed like a simple way to do it...
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>>These have now been bred together, yielding around 70 hatchlings so far this year. As expected, lots of normals, blizzards and albinos - all 66% het for blazing blizzard. To get 2 Blazing Blizzards out of just 70 or so hatchlings defied the ratio of 1 in 2000 often bantered about. Either I am extremely lucky (not likely based on life experiences..) or the odds are actually a lot lower than everyone thinks. Or maybe I have a 'hot' line of them going?
>>
>>Who knows? here's a pic of the slightly older one, a little less afraid to open it's eyes!
>>
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>>Hope you enjoyed the pics!
>>VMS Profession Herpetoculture

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-Ross Payan - www.LeosAnonymous.com

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SFgeckos Sep 03, 2003 10:41 PM

2 out of 70 isnt bad at all in my opinion.

i know rumors have been going around in the past, but can anyone give the source of who exactly said the ratio was "1 out of 1,000 or 1 out of 2,000"??? (just curious)

think it's possible that the numbers were hyped or raised higher to make it seemingly impossible to hatch out blazing blizzards? (thus discouraging the average/small time breeder from trying) or to make them seem much rarer and thus worth considerably more?

i'm pretty sure that some of the larger breeders have produced a few as well, but they just want to keep it on the down low (marketing strageties). i think so...just my opinions...no pun or harm intended!

-SFgeckos

ragnew Sep 03, 2003 10:45 PM

Just my opinion...

E2MacPets Sep 03, 2003 11:11 PM

There was at least one noteable breeder that stated they hatched 1000 eggs without a single blazing, that's where it came from.

Man, I can't wait till next year to see what my girls produce.
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royalgoldreps Sep 04, 2003 10:25 AM

Yeah, I bet!

RGR

bradley Sep 03, 2003 11:32 PM

and a lot of people agreed. I'm not going for Blazing Blizzards, I was just thinking that because blizzards and albinos have been out for so long, and the smart breeders would of bred the albino with the blizzard right from the start. With both these morphs being out for nearly four years, serious breeders would of produced these at least 2 years ago if everyone got 2:70 ratio of blazing. We would at the very least see Blazing Blizzards available to the public by now.
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Bradley Baquial

KelliH Sep 04, 2003 02:06 AM

np
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