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Sorry started new thread.albino genetics

tomdickinson Aug 01, 2008 06:29 AM

I was not reading a book.I am talking about actual scientific research papers.Which I think have more merit than your everyday reptile book.I was always under the impression that albinos just lacked melanin.I breed albino garters.But it is hard to argue with someone saying what you got is not a albino because it has yellow pigment and has all kinds of research documents to back him up.

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vcaruso15 Aug 01, 2008 07:15 AM

Yes technically an albino in the reptile world is actually amelanistic. Albino is the trade name that has come to be used and accepted for amelanistic animals within the hobby. Its not a problem why try to make it one.

ginebig Aug 01, 2008 07:59 AM

Tom, I tend to agree that albinos should be an all white animal. I struggled with the albino reptile thing for years before I finally accepted it. But if, as in PHLdyPaynes last definition, albinism only affects melanin then snakes with colors other than black are albino. It busted MY bubble, but it is what it is.

Quig

reptilicus81 Aug 01, 2008 11:07 AM

Albinism is characterized by a partial (in hypomelanism, also known as hypomelanosis) or total (amelanism or amelanosis) lack of melanin pigment in the eyes, skin and hair (or more rarely the eyes alone).

"Most mammals, including humans, have only one pigment (melanin) present, and for them, there is no difference between albinism and amelanism. However, most reptiles possess other pigments such as xanthin (yellow) and erythrin (red), which still play a major role in the reptile's coloration, even when there is no melanin present, as is the case with amelanism." (Pacific Coast Herp)

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jyohe Aug 01, 2008 01:30 PM

1964 I think ,?, H. Bernard Bechtel found an orange,red,and white cornsnakes in Fl at a roadside display of some type.......took the animal home and bred it to 4 girls and then bred the kids together and re-created the same homozygus colors......he went on to write papers and books on "albinism" in reptiles and became quite famous for this......

(correct any wrong info , memory might be off )?

....IF Dr Bechtel would have had a blizzard corn to work with he would have labeled them albinos....and we wouldn't have a problem with it.....and in the future we could have / would have called the "albino" corn an amelanistic corn ......

......albino.......to me is just a generic term......could be white or colored......albino robins are usually just a hypo looking bird to me.......albino fish are amels alot.....anyways.....yet albino deer are white,pink eyed....

.....just think of generic as it gets...albino okeetee cornsnake.....

........Johnny Winter and Edgar Winter..........albino........the one that plays "Frankenstein" was cool and actually did his show...outdoors IN the sun!!....the other one went on stage (small indoor)and whined about the mic....played a line....whined again and again...and walked off stage..........screw him......The Fabulous Poodles didn't whine...they played and played and were awfully good........(don't know the Poodles?.....or even Angel?....YouTube them...see it all....Angel "watchtower" or Poodles "man with money" "anna rexia"....LOL.....show my age???.......B52's?....

....want to be confused.......look up pics of "hypo" pueblan milks....LOL
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