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nice pied that hatched out the other day...

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I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

That is a nice one, lots of white!!! very cool.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

>>That is a nice one, lots of white!!! very cool.
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>>Thanks,
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>>Dave Colling
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>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
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>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
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>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>26.49 BRB
>>20.21 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
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>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

Frank,
...That really is an extreme looking snake. I have not been on the BP forum in forever. Is that an exceptional specimen compared to other pieds people are producing these days?
Jeff

>>nice pied that hatched out the other day...
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>>Frank Roberts
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>>I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

Is that an exceptional specimen compared to other pieds people are producing these days?

Yes that one is exceptional due to the mount white. I have seen ones that are all white with a nose patch but that is rare.

Thanks
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

im not a ball python expert or anything, ive never kept them in large quantities, but isnt it also rare to have a pied with very little white, i do know that they have completely different patterns, and one i saw with only a small dot right above the stomach happened to be the most expensive pied i saw at a show.

>>im not a ball python expert or anything, ive never kept them in large quantities, but isnt it also rare to have a pied with very little white, i do know that they have completely different patterns, and one i saw with only a small dot right above the stomach happened to be the most expensive pied i saw at a show.
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

>>>>im not a ball python expert or anything, ive never kept them in large quantities, but isnt it also rare to have a pied with very little white, i do know that they have completely different patterns, and one i saw with only a small dot right above the stomach happened to be the most expensive pied i saw at a show.
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>>Thanks,
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>>Frank Roberts
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>>I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.
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Roberts Realm Of Reptile Research
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

Mike,
..That just seems backwards to me. I would think the more extreme looking the more value.
Jeff

>>im not a ball python expert or anything, ive never kept them in large quantities, but isnt it also rare to have a pied with very little white, i do know that they have completely different patterns, and one i saw with only a small dot right above the stomach happened to be the most expensive pied i saw at a show.

Jeff,

The norm in value I noticed was the less white...the less value.

The interesting thing is that even a pied with a little dot of white could make a high white pied as an offspring. With this morph you also pay for how much white is present regardless of what babies it could throw.

I could see someone trying to ask for a lot of money for the opposite extreme, but the white in my opinion is what drives the desirability in this morph (for me anyway's)

An early way ($$$) into the project was to buy low white pieds.

Now they are pretty cheap when just a few years back they where 10k.
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

Frank,
That thing does'nt even look real. Wow.
Hate to even ask what something like that goes for.
Good work,
Paul

>>Frank,
>>That thing does'nt even look real. Wow.
>>Hate to even ask what something like that goes for.
>>Good work,
>>Paul
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

>>nice pied that hatched out the other day...

>>>>nice pied that hatched out the other day...
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

Nice Pied! I'm not real into the Ball Pythons, but I think I do want a Piebald someday. One that has lots of white just like that one. But for now I cannot justify laying doyn $2.5K for one of those!

Congrats!!
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Aubrey Ross

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www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

>>Nice Pied! I'm not real into the Ball Pythons, but I think I do want a Piebald someday. One that has lots of white just like that one. But for now I cannot justify laying doyn $2.5K for one of those!
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>>Congrats!!
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>>Aubrey Ross
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>>www.SlipstreamSerpents.com
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

I've always thought BP's were okay, but that baby's absolutely stunning! It's the first one I've ever seen that I'd actually want to own---although I couldn't afford it!
(Plus, I'm still waiting for my beautiful little blood to arrive... I hope it's not a bad sign that she's been slow to eat out of the egg.)
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Renee
1.0 BRB (Loki)
2.0 amel & anery corns (Foxfire & Daguerre)
0.1 blood python (Duchess, arriving later this month)
1.1 Cats (Nightshade & Cuzzy)

I do not think it's a bad sign for your blood not to eat right away. I would imagine it wants something other then it is being offered and that is why it is taking longer then it's clutch mates.

Once it gets started they are little chow hounds.
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

>>I do not think it's a bad sign for your blood not to eat right away. I would imagine it wants something other then it is being offered and that is why it is taking longer then it's clutch mates.
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>>Once it gets started they are little chow hounds.
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>>Thanks,
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>>Frank Roberts
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>>I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

I'm dying to get her and I've been starting to get anxious that she's taking so long to eat. The breeder says she looks and acts healthy (even though she hasn't eaten). Still, I've started to worry a bit about her. What do you think she might want to eat, if not mice?

>>I do not think it's a bad sign for your blood not to eat right away. I would imagine it wants something other then it is being offered and that is why it is taking longer then it's clutch mates.
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>>Once it gets started they are little chow hounds.
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>>Thanks,
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>>Frank Roberts
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>>I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.
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Renee
1.0 BRB (Loki)
2.0 amel & anery corns (Foxfire & Daguerre)
0.1 blood python (Duchess, arriving later this month)
1.1 Cats (Nightshade & Cuzzy)

What do you think she might want to eat, if not mice?

I am not sure.

But in captivity most pythons want rats, mice, or avian prey items.

Snakes are NEVER IMO stubborn feeders, it is US/WE that are stubborn in what we think they should eat.

Also I have read that it is not uncommon for blood pythons to go several months without excepting food.

This is probably based on the yolk they absorb giving them a HEAD START so they do not need to feed immediately for their survival in the wild.

Or it may be an artifact of the captive environment because we are not offering them their preferred food source.

Wild rats, mice, etc.. smell different from what we are offering when compared to what they are initially looking for.

Once they baby excepts a acceptable prey source it's all up hill from there.

Like I said...

Some snakes are suited by nature to feed later.

I have read this about neonatal blood pythons, so do not worry too much.
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

besides that we may also be giving the snake captive temps or other environmental conditions that make feeding for them less then optimal.
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

I'll try not to worry too much about my little slow-to-eat girl. Sooner or later she'll decide she's ready---although I'm already more-than-ready to see her!
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Renee
1.0 BRB (Loki)
2.0 amel & anery corns (Foxfire & Daguerre)
0.1 blood python (Duchess, arriving later this month)
1.1 Cats (Nightshade & Cuzzy)

congrats and be sure to post pic's of her when you get her!!!!
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

I got an entire one responce on the BP forum. Amazing cause they wish they hatched this snake out.

Richards!!!!

This forum RULES especialy since most do not seem to desite balls...

which makes sense because this is the BRB forum but go figure LOL.
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

Frank,
....I have not owned a Ball Python in the last 15 years. I still love Ball Pythons but HATE the thousands of people who got into them solely to make money.
Snakes are great, people suck,
Jeff

>>I got an entire one responce on the BP forum. Amazing cause they wish they hatched this snake out.
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>>Richards!!!!
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>>This forum RULES especialy since most do not seem to desite balls...
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>>which makes sense because this is the BRB forum but go figure LOL.
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>>Thanks,
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>>Frank Roberts
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>>I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

Jeff,

we all like money but they seem a bit excessive.

My first python was a retic at 11 , then an african rock at 13, then a ball at 15-16. Kinda backwards but they (the snakes) kept me out trouble, well that was my parents take on things, as long as I had my menagerie of reptiles and amphibians it seemed to keep me away from trouble.

Darn things still keep me in the house LOL!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

I hear you. I've posted pics of Jack my Indigo to the indigo forum maybe 2 or 3 times, got maybe one response to one of those
posts. And I think the one guy who did respond quickly left that forum due it's lameness.

Maybe we should combine Jeff's motto with yours - "Snakes are great, people are Richards."

>>I got an entire one responce on the BP forum. Amazing cause they wish they hatched this snake out.
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>>Richards!!!!
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>>This forum RULES especialy since most do not seem to desite balls...
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>>which makes sense because this is the BRB forum but go figure LOL.
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>>Thanks,
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>>Frank Roberts
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>>I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

>>I hear you.

Yeah most forums are just like you mention, but even the ones with a lot of traffic ignore you, like a click, which has always annoyed me, cause I don't like the idea of "fitting in".
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

You "fit in" here!!!!

>>Yeah most forums are just like you mention, but even the ones with a lot of traffic ignore you, like a click, which has always annoyed me, cause I don't like the idea of "fitting in".
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Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

>>You "fit in" here!!!!

Thanks Dave and BRB's are one of my many favorites so ain't I lucky to boot!!

But I am a multi species hobbyist that dabbles in breeding. For example I have bred a species of Boa, Python, and Colubrid this year. I have 48 babies from 3 snakes this year. (9 have not hatched yet). So 39 at the moment. Very fun hobby.
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

"I have 48 babies from 3 snakes this year. (9 have not hatched yet). So 39 at the moment."

Counting your eggs before they hatch!!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

>>Counting your eggs before they hatch!!!

Well I hope they hatch, they are not my eggs... they are their's LOL n/p
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

Frank,
...Fitting in here is not a good thing.
Jeff

>>>>You "fit in" here!!!!
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>>Thanks Dave and BRB's are one of my many favorites so ain't I lucky to boot!!
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>>But I am a multi species hobbyist that dabbles in breeding. For example I have bred a species of Boa, Python, and Colubrid this year. I have 48 babies from 3 snakes this year. (9 have not hatched yet). So 39 at the moment. Very fun hobby.
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>>Thanks,
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>>Frank Roberts
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>>I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

>>Frank,
>>...Fitting in here is not a good thing.
>>Jeff
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>>>>>>You "fit in" here!!!!
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>>>>Thanks Dave and BRB's are one of my many favorites so ain't I lucky to boot!!
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>>>>But I am a multi species hobbyist that dabbles in breeding. For example I have bred a species of Boa, Python, and Colubrid this year. I have 48 babies from 3 snakes this year. (9 have not hatched yet). So 39 at the moment. Very fun hobby.
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>>>>Frank Roberts
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>>>>I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

Beautiful little ball Frank. That guy has a ton of white! I really like the look of Pieds and hope to get some hets myself in the future now that I have a better handle on this incubation thing.

>>Beautiful little ball Frank. That guy has a ton of white! I really like the look of Pieds and hope to get some hets myself in the future now that I have a better handle on this incubation thing.

Thanks Milo,

I have 4 pos hets, 3 with markers (I think that's useless) I do not know what I am going to do with.
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

Well, you could always send them to Colorado and I promise to make sure they have a nice caring home.

Seriously though, send me a PM and let you know what you think you'll want for them when they're ready to go. I may like to get at least a female from you.

>>Well, you could always send them to Colorado and I promise to make sure they have a nice caring home.
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>>Seriously though, send me a PM and let you know what you think you'll want for them when they're ready to go. I may like to get at least a female from you.
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

Beautiful snake, I love the high white ones. Almost make me want to own a pied pet rock (thanks Dave! lol). When the leucy ones become affordable, I may not be able to resist.

Congrats on a good season so far.
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Julie

Surrounded by a bunch of BRB, some Ridleyi, a few Grey Banded Kings, Australian Cattle Dogs, a Belgian Malinois, assorted Mustelids and an incredibly tolerant male human.

>>Beautiful snake, I love the high white ones. Almost make me want to own a pied pet rock (thanks Dave! lol). When the leucy ones become affordable, I may not be able to resist.
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>>Congrats on a good season so far.
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>>Julie
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>>Surrounded by a bunch of BRB, some Ridleyi, a few Grey Banded Kings, Australian Cattle Dogs, a Belgian Malinois, assorted Mustelids and an incredibly tolerant male human.
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

Pet Rock, Pied - PRP for short?
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

>>Pet Rock, Pied - PRP for short?
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>>Thanks,
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>>Dave Colling
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>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
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>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
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>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>26.49 BRB
>>20.21 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
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>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats
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Roberts Realm Of Reptile Research
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.