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So a while back I posted about a Garter I found in the back yard that had some unusual coloration on her underside. Finally I'm getting around to posting pics.

So the other day when I was doing some work in the snake room, I noticed something wriggling around in the tub I have her in. When I opened it I quickly realized that not only was this snake a female, she'd been pregnant and had given birth to her babies the night before!!! I was so excited, I was like a little kid at Christmas. Anyway here are some pics of the "kids". They're not the greatest, they were taken with my cell phone.

She had 18 babies and 2 stillborn. So now I have a few questions. What's the best way to start these suckers out? I've read that feeder guppies and such are good as are worms (the small baitshop kind), but man these guys are pretty small so I was wondering what you all used to feed your babies when they first come out? Oh and they've already finished shedding.

Thanks,
Dan
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1.0.0 Snow Corn Snake (Suzie - it's a funny story)
0.1.0 Normal Corn Snake (F.U.)
1.0.0 Amelanistic Corn Snake (Tohper)
1.1.0 Black Racers (Diablo & Noir)
1.1.0 Normal Ball Pythons (Trogdor & Samantha)
1.0.0 Red Eared Slider (Fish)

Very cool, I know the feeling of that surprise, it's instant gratification, no waiting 2 months for eggs to hatch. I start with guppies, then move to rosies and pinkie legs and tails, then ASAP to day old pinkies, and then keep bumping up mouse size, but other people start them with worms, tadpoles with great success too and then move them up to various natural food items.
Congrats on the nice litter, now the work begins
Not positive on this one, but my first instinct looking at the photo was that it is a very orange dorsal form of T.radix, but I could be wrong, where was it caught again?
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Jeff Benfer

1.0 pastel Python regius
1.1 mojave Python regius
0.1 normal Python regius
1.3 Terrapene carolina thriunguis
2.3 Terrapene carolina carolina
4.1 Kinosternon baurii
1.1 Malaclemys terrapin terrapin
2.2 double het albino and anerythristicThamnophis sirtalis parietalis
1.0 anerythristic Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis
2.2 Iowa snow Thamnophis radix
0.2 het Christmas albino Thamnophis radix
1.1 double het cherry erythristic, albino Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 melanistic Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 triple heterozygous for amelanistic,carmel, and stripe Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 anerythristic motley Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 Okeetee Pantherophis guttatus

Thanks for the advice. I chopped up a nightcrawler last night and it looks as though a few of them ate a piece. They had some nice bulges in their middles when I checked on them before bed.

The mother was caught in Joplin Missouri, which is in the southwest corner of the state.

Regards,
Dan
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1.0.0 Snow Corn Snake (Suzie - it's a funny story)
0.1.0 Normal Corn Snake (F.U.)
1.0.0 Amelanistic Corn Snake (Tohper)
1.1.0 Black Racers (Diablo & Noir)
1.1.0 Normal Ball Pythons (Trogdor & Samantha)
1.0.0 Red Eared Slider (Fish)

Jeff hit it spot on, not much to add there.

Congrats

Wayne A. Harvey
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1.0.0 Ball Python - Python regius "Cane" Rescue
0.1.0 Eastern MilkSnake WC "Carmella" adult super sweet temperment (seven egg clutch!)
1.2.3 Storeria dekayi Casper, Xena, Athena, & Kids (30 plus released!)
2.1.0 Thamnophis sirtalis - eastern Garters
0.0.1 Thamnophis HybridAlbino Checkered Normal eastern
2.0.0 Thamnophis sirtalis - eastern Garters (xtreme orange phase)
1.1.0 Thamnophis RADIX - Snow Hets
0.1.0 Thamnophis RADIX - Christmas Albino
0.0.1 Thamnophis sirtalis - Red Phase Eastern Garter red and white stripes
0.0.1 Thamnophis butleriButler's Garter Snake
0.0.6 Thamnophis proximus orariusCoastal Ribbons
0.0.16 Thamnophis sirtalis - newborn Eastern Garter babies 7/11/08
0.0.17 Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis HET Anerythristic Scott Felzer stock.
1.1.0 Thamnophis sirtalis CB "Flame" & Melanistic Scott Felzer
0.1.0 Thamnophis sirtalis Eastern Snow "Snowflake"
0.0.1 Thamnophis sirtalis infernalis California Red Sided
1.2.0 Thamnophis pickeringi - Puget Sound Garter "Sky" (adult, Sky blue) 2 females recently aquired.
0.0.1 Nerodia sipedon - Water Snake - "Aqua" adult WC
0.1.0 Storeria occipitomaculata - Red Belly snake (Her children were raised & released)
0.0.1 Amelanistic Corn Snake "CY" Juvinile CB
1.0.0. Pueblan Milk snake "Oreo" adult CB
1.0.0. ASIAN GREEN SNAKE 3' WC Cyclophiops major"Limon"
0.0.1. Savannah Monitor "CHOMPER" Growing fast!
1.1.3. Green Anole "Crystal" & "Chris" WC dropping eggs fast!
1.0.0. K9 "ACE" Black Cockapoo
0.2.0. Feline"Felix"(R.I.P. 4/27/08) "Kaja" & "Silver"
2.1.0. calico RATS
2.4.?? Mice - Feeder farm - Crickets / fish
More herps than I could ever list out back on the land.